Important! : Cammed VTS 122BHP?!?!? Power Lossssss!!! BIG UPDATE - Page 5 - Saxperience

AndySAXO^p · 9th August 2011, 10:20

Yer you should have more. That a given should be around the 145 150 mark about 125 to 130 at the wheels.

Something not right, need to check the timing then see if that right, then go from there.

CitroenSport · 9th August 2011, 12:26

Ok cheers mate you have been a big help, williams will be sorting it next week so will report back then

CitroenSport · 19th August 2011, 07:55

Ok went to Williams last night and car was on standard timing!!! So he changed it and I think it's quicker but I couldn't really tell... So then he got his computer and and checked why the engine management light is on.... And it came up blah blah 6060 ECU

so could that just be because of remap? Or is it fucked ECU?

AndySAXO^p · 19th August 2011, 08:05

Yer I don't know what chipwizard dose with the ecu to map them, but hear he puts them in limp mode.

And yer dont forget not always the timing set by the cat company will give max power for your engine.

But it should work better than standardtiming.

You need really to gets remap/ standalone ecu and timung done to get max bhp/ torque maybe save now for bodies?

sexy_gt · 19th August 2011, 08:11

Mine is on rollers at the mo. Not complete yet but have some good gains from setting up cams properly

CitroenSport · 19th August 2011, 08:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

Yer I don't know what chipwizard dose with the ecu to map them, but hear he puts them in limp mode.

And yer dont forget not always the timing set by the cat company will give max power for your engine.

But it should work better than standardtiming.

You need really to gets remap/ standalone ecu and timung done to get max bhp/ torque maybe save now for bodies?

Cheers for helping out again lads lol

So what does it mean in limp mode? When Williams took it off it then felt noticably quicker and then the next time I started it up it came back on. Would I ring Wayne? Or get different ECU?

Think timing is about sorted now and Williams has showed me how to adjust it so it's the ECU that's my problem

Gareth_R · 19th August 2011, 08:22

I'd ring wayne

AndySAXO^p · 19th August 2011, 08:28

Yer but not every engine the same, the timing the cam company gives a guide to go to.

But during mapping it might not be the exact same. But would be close could be the same but until it getting mapped you don't know.

Yer I hear to map the standard ecu he put them in the limp mode and maps it there.

So it could be that

I would take to the same dyno as the last one see if it different.

Then go from there, but maybe worth save for bodies standalone ecu and get it done all then?

CitroenSport · 19th August 2011, 08:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

Yer but not every engine the same, the timing the cam company gives a guide to go to.

But during mapping it might not be the exact same. But would be close could be the same but until it getting mapped you don't know.

Yer I hear to map the standard ecu he put them in the limp mode and maps it there.

So it could be that

I would take to the same dyno as the last one see if it different.

Then go from there, but maybe worth save for bodies standalone ecu and get it done all then?

Ok will wait for rolling road and can see if I can have a few goes and will adjust it each time and see what I get... As for bodies etc don't think I can spend another penny apart from dyno on saxos at the minute! Feel like it's a never ending pit lol

so what ur saying is it should be in limp mode as he maps it from there? And I wonder how it was 153bhp when it was always standard timing?

AndySAXO^p · 19th August 2011, 09:02

I don't know what chipwizard does, and to be fair not a fan on what he does with standard ecu.

Do it not be played since before the mapping your saying.

AndySAXO^p · 19th August 2011, 09:03

To be fair this highlights the reason for standalone ecu atleast you know what the ecu doing.

As you can plug a laptop in a check the map on there.

CitroenSport · 19th August 2011, 09:19

So pred ecu or just leave it basically

williamsvts · 19th August 2011, 09:32

ive never seen any others in limp mode after a remap. the fault code was ' engine control module processor malfunction' p0606.

only time he puts them in limp mode is to run TB's on a standard ecu as far as i know. to be honest, i had my car mapped by him on 708s years ago and thought it was shit. drove worse, worse on fuel and could hardly tell the difference. wouldnt use him again, rather just do it myself now.

i just dont think you get the huge increase in speed from these engines people expect with cams.

a few vts's ive drove with cams some with TBs havent felt any faster.

williamsvts · 19th August 2011, 09:34

imo, if you wana go faster, boost them or buy a faster car. your pissing your money away with cams on bodies on these.

CitroenSport · 19th August 2011, 09:40

Been on the phone to evotune the rolling road palce and he said to take it down there and he would have a look at the remap and see if he could get it out of limp mode for good and sort it out? Think it's possible or just a waste of petrol?

williamsvts · 19th August 2011, 09:45

how far away is it? i dont even think it will be in limp mode.

CitroenSport · 19th August 2011, 10:19

50 mile trip so will be more than a quater tank of v power lol

so what does that code mean then? That the ECU is fucked?

Sophia_Bush · 19th August 2011, 10:20

is this a 3 plug ecu or a single plug?

AndySAXO^p · 19th August 2011, 10:29

Yer I know he did use limp mode some mapping he does like I said I don't know too much about it.

Also so a 190 bhp body car not going to be faster than a standard vts?

I understand about judt cammed cars,

But my body Saxo vs a cammed vts I pulled away easily, on the dyno his was 143 mine was 157... Sane dyno same day.

But that off topic, I was just trying to help, I know he used limp mode sometimes, must of been for the bodies map then, which IMO I would just get a standalone ecu.

Yer well glad it was nothing too bad then and now getting sorted.

Glad to have help alittle mate.

CitroenSport · 19th August 2011, 10:45

3 plug... Think I mite just leave it... Gutted like!

Wonder if evotune could fix what ever that code is? I would pay that much to get it fixed.

Just can't find that code fault anywhere!