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5th February 2012, 22:23
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Here's a decent turbo for the guys wanting upto 280hp and super fast spool.. Only thing is you need an T3 flanged manifold
eBay item number
270893202525
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5th February 2012, 22:23
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yeah there reasonably common. Very common on larger capacity diesels. They can be had for about £450 new!!
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5th February 2012, 22:27
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you know looking at the prices of the 20 & 22s they are quite reasonable new but then again if I can find out exactly which cars they came off I'm going on a hunt to get one in next few weeks dam you lol!!
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5th February 2012, 22:36
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What turbo you using now gav?
Only thing I can think of that could be an issue with these diesel turbos is they could run out of puff higher up the rev range, don't think this will much of a problem on the 8v but on a 16v I'd want a turbo that will allow me to use the revs
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5th February 2012, 22:40
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What turbo you using now gav?
Only thing I can think of that could be an issue with these diesel turbos is they could run out of puff higher up the rev range, don't think this will much of a problem on the 8v but on a 16v I'd want a turbo that will allow me to use the revs
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just using a r5 t2 now which lets be honest with what I am running it is more than enough if I was going 160+ then I'd look into changing but if one of these come up cheap enough why not.
You know with these turbos the 20&22 I don't think it matters to much I did read some where these new turbos like the ones we are talking about are designed with both applications in mind so should be ok don't know if in practice it would work though.
As said if I can get one I will give it a go one thing is for sure depending on the spec down pipe should be easy to make as one of them only use a 3 bolt flange but is flat faced unlike the saab ones
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5th February 2012, 22:40
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5th February 2012, 22:44
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2.2crd pt cruiser also run them
think they are a dual purpose turbo as gav mentioned but not 100% on that, i was looking into them a while back, seems loads of ppl in the states rate them highly, but they arent meant to perform too well when making under 160bhp
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5th February 2012, 22:47
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They should work well on both petrol and diesel engines, it's just these turbos seem to run very Small exh A/R.. I'd choose the larger exhaust housing if I had the option
This would help flow at higher rpm
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5th February 2012, 22:49
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Here's a decent turbo for the guys wanting upto 280hp and super fast spool.. Only thing is you need an T3 flanged manifold
eBay item number
270893202525
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thats the exact turbo i was looking into
which is how i found the above info lol
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5th February 2012, 22:54
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good website that I'll have a proper look through it during the week see what cars I can go plunder
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6th February 2012, 00:07
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what does the td04, gt17 etc actually mean? is there any theroy to it or what? also people talk of say a t3 flange is this a certain measurment or style???
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6th February 2012, 00:35
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talking of dual purpose turbos i understand why is not advisable to run a diesel turbo on a petrol but wot about a pet one on a diesel as i have a gt17 that i fancy puting on my tdi landy
thanks tom
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6th February 2012, 16:53
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what does the td04, gt17 etc actually mean? is there any theroy to it or what? also people talk of say a t3 flange is this a certain measurment or style???
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Yes a lot of the codes mean something or another..
For example gt2860r means, GT= garret ball bearing turbo, 28= size of the turbo, 60 = 60mm compressor wheel etc that's just a simple example.
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6th February 2012, 18:45
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danny, what's you're fews on the V04-trim IHI RHB32 turbo from the daihatsu charade? It's on a vtr with gti-6 injectors at 4 bar with 2inch boost pipes ect...
Still to figure out what de-comp plate to buy and then book mapping!
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6th February 2012, 18:55
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T34 only it doesnt come on boost untill 4k
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6th February 2012, 20:26
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danny, what's you're fews on the V04-trim IHI RHB32 turbo from the daihatsu charade? It's on a vtr with gti-6 injectors at 4 bar with 2inch boost pipes ect...
Still to figure out what de-comp plate to buy and then book mapping!
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Tbh mate I don't know much about that turbo.
I would say the turbo was designed for a 1.3 so with your extra capacity you could take advantage of a slightly larger turbo, so at least if you did want a little more power your not choking the engine.
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6th February 2012, 20:31
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T34 only it doesnt come on boost untill 4k
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Yea, then all hell breaks loose
You were building your car for drag racing so spool time's not as critical
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6th February 2012, 20:46
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plus no lag with direct port nos
the T2/T25 i had was awsome on my VTR, it was responsive as hell (would of been loads better if the CR was higher than 6.5:1) was on full boost by 2k so had no lag when driving, id recomend it to anyone wanting to turbo a sax.
one thing worth noting about these turbos is the inlet side, ive fitted my old kit on to a 1.4 and the only difference is the 1.4 has an S1 inlet, it doesnt come on boost now till 4k.
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6th February 2012, 20:48
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Originally Posted by dannygti
Tbh mate I don't know much about that turbo.
I would say the turbo was designed for a 1.3 so with your extra capacity you could take advantage of a slightly larger turbo, so at least if you did want a little more power your not choking the engine.
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well tbh at the price of my set up I can't complain, I do plan on going forged with a larger turbo next winter when I can afford it as I just want some form of boost for summer. By the engine choking what do you mean? I am only going to get the small turbo mapped at 15ish psi
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6th February 2012, 20:50
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i dont think you can run that turbo at that boost mate
ill go check the specs...
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