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Old 27th December 2012, 15:56   #21
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Could I just have your opinion on why it is 'shit'?

And what sort of programs would you suggest removing? I'll admit I only use a tiny percentage of stuff anyway
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Old 27th December 2012, 16:05   #22
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Basically, it runs a stupid amount of processes to actually do the job of an anti virus software for a start. Its crazy with pop-ups and alerts you to everything you do on a laptop (pretty much) it deems everything as a virus / problem (in my experience) and spreads itself all over your laptops hard drive so removing is a complete nightmare (you may as well just reinstall if you've ever had it)

I'm quite biased against ALL anti virus as I look at it as that i have a good knowledge to stop myself from getting a virus, but if i download a torrent or program with a virus in then i'll just reformat. With that in mind i wouldn't even bother running one, if you wanted to check you can repair your computer to factory settings before you don't use a anti virus software then do what i said above, F8 on startup.

With regards to removing software, all the added 'HP' branded crap for example 'HP power management' and all that crap is added rubbish, the Windows 8 OS has it's own built in management so why they need to add it extra i don't know. It's probably aimed for people with no idea trying to make it easier, in reality it just slows down the computer.

EDIT: if you took screen shots of your control panel -> programs and features (i think it's called - basically add and remove ) I could tell you what i mean by the added extra crap as you're bound to have stuff on there. The latest laptop which was bought for my work (school - for a student) had 30 extra processes running on startup for extra software straight out of the box.

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Old 27th December 2012, 16:12   #23
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Ok cheers i'll have a look into that.

Could you recommend another anti virus apart from norton that I can just intall and forget without having to use it in conjunction with anything else? Would make me feel better having some sort of anti virus installed
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Ok cheers i'll have a look into that.

Could you recommend another anti virus apart from norton that I can just intall and forget without having to use it in conjunction with anything else? Would make me feel better having some sort of anti virus installed
Avast! It's good stuff and not a memory whore like Norton is.
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Theres so many out there, realistically they're as good as each other, they can only bring out updates so fast viruses can be made faster.

Nod32, Avast, AVG, Kaspersky.
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Old 27th December 2012, 16:25   #26
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Ok cheers, i'm going to look into downloading avast and see how that goes
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I recommend you to use NOD32, Avast isn't as good as it was before even the free vesion. Kaspersky is good too but a "heavy"one.
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I recommend you to use NOD32, Avast isn't as good as it was before even the free vesion. Kaspersky is good too but a "heavy"one.
but you don't get a ANTIVIRUS DATABASE HAS BEEN UPDATED greeting in the morning when you boot up
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ALOT of companies use nod32. i know we do.
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Do you have to run that nod32 in conjunction with anything else? And is it a free download??
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It's not for free dude but you can find it at the torrent trackers
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It won't be free, as said I would go with Avast and a dose of common sense tbh.

As for removing programs you can download decrapifier to assist, also you want to look at start up item, go to bottom left of desktop window, right click and select run, type msconfig and press enter, select startup tab and remove anything you don't need to start every time.
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It's not for free dude but you can find it at the torrent trackers
Ironic that you download antivirus illegally to prevent viruses from downloading things illegally
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Ironic that you download antivirus illegally to prevent viruses from downloading things illegally
I'm not using antivirus actually . Just I gaved him an idea from were he can download it ilegally if he wants. If he want everything to be legal he can download Avast Free.
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Bollocks to avoiding Windows 8. Everyone said that about Vista/7. Try it, you'll get used to it!

The spec of that laptop is really good, exactly the spec I have been looking at, although I have been trying to stay away from HP. My perception of them is that their quality isn't the best. The guy in Currys agreed with me as well.
You wont get used to it, its so fucking awkward to use its unreal. Makes it feel like a waste of money buying the new laptop tbh.

HP do quite well in quality tests too.
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