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11th October 2012, 11:31
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#21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xplodee
Saxo looks great mate. Bet them brakes have some serious stopping power.
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Thanks mate!They most certainly do, especially with CL pads. They have a rather ferocious bite
Last edited by Rowan; 10th December 2012 at 20:25.
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10th December 2012, 20:33
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#22
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Update:
Mocal oil cooler
JP4 camcovers
Megane 225 injectors (390cc)
Uprated gear links
Intercooler, oil catchcan, slim fan and 200CP sportcat
Vems 3.6 standalone with wideband lambda and on board MAP sensor
Re-looming the bugger
And redesigned the woofer case to hold the 79Ah battery
(will post more fotos when it is upholstered)
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2nd January 2013, 08:43
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#23
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Wee update
received the boost control solenoid
And I found out that the mild steel manifold was very poorly C02 welded and thus leaking worse than dodgy fossett.
So I decided I could do a better job and started off with 42mm (2mm thick) stainless.
(there is also some 2.5" bends,straights and v-band clamps on this picture for the exhaust)
Initial welded up collector
So it is all tacked up, now just looking for the time to finish it.
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2nd January 2013, 09:14
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Excellent work there fella. Really good!
Did you get the design from somewhere, or do it in CAD first or... freestyle it or what? Looks great!
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2nd January 2013, 09:22
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Thanks! I collected as many pictures of especially dp mani's and free-styled it from there.
As I found out along the way, they are exactly equal length as each runner uses 4 90' bends.
(although one is more cut up than the other)
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2nd January 2013, 09:28
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Nice work there mate!
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5th January 2013, 15:27
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Great build.
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23rd January 2013, 12:18
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#28
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MSD ignition thanks to trackdayparts.nl
Picking up a second engine to this saturday, so the real build can begin!
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23rd January 2013, 12:24
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#29
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42mm primary's? Really?
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23rd January 2013, 12:32
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Effective inner diameter would be 38mm.
Too large? Have considered this affecting the spool up time of my tiny turbo..
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23rd January 2013, 12:38
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Looks good! Where'd you source your stainless elbows?
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23rd January 2013, 12:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RowanVtr
Effective inner diameter would be 38mm.
Too large? Have considered this affecting the spool up time of my tiny turbo..
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Is it pipe or tube your using? It looks like tube to me?
It depends who you ask.. If it's a tiny turbo then you probably won't notice that much but still, if It was me I'd use 1.25" ID pipe.
Regardless, it looks like you have been doing a good job so far keep it up
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23rd January 2013, 12:56
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Cheers mate!
I use tube, sourced via a hobbyist who fabricates stainless exhausts. (here in Holland)
http://www.freewebs.com/jbranbergen/uitlaten.htm
I'm going to run a T2 with T25 turbine housing, so I think lag won't be that bad. 1.5" was easier to source so I went with that.
Maybe in the future I'll re-design the whole thing (possibly with external wastegate) and really put a study in to it.
But in this case I'll ask you for your thoughts if you don't mind, I'm always open to good advice.
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28th January 2013, 07:43
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Got a crappy 16v lump for the rebuild. And while I was at it, got me a hoist and an engine mount(? don't know what its called in English)
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1st February 2013, 09:03
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An evening in the mancave:
Testfitted the manifold and turbo, like a glove
(For the observants among us, yes there are only 3 runners on the manifold. I've decided to go with an external wastegate)
Head off
Them silly valves...
Dafuq
The cause
While the block is soaking up the detergent
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1st February 2013, 09:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RowanVtr
(For the observants among us, yes there are only 3 runners on the manifold. I've decided to go with an external wastegate)
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How are you routing that? Not just on one primary (I hope!)?
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1st February 2013, 09:29
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I'm going to run a tube directly from the collector, that's why I took the runner out. So I can figure out how the hell I'm going to fit the basterd
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1st February 2013, 09:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RowanVtr
I'm going to run a tube directly from the collector, that's why I took the runner out. So I can figure out how the hell I'm going to fit the basterd
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ah perfect. Just to throw a spanner in the works, you know you should really not go against the flow (like the DP manifolds do) ... right? Let's test your welding/routing skills - see if you can route one somehow from the collector, in the gasflow direction hehe
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1st February 2013, 09:49
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I have been pondering that, and also been trying to figure out what the minimum angle is that would be required to not interrupt the gasflow. Or at least not as much..
A good challenge nonetheless.
But before I begin to fabricate anything for the wastegate, I would have get one first.
Need to know the measurements so I can keep that in account.
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1st February 2013, 09:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RowanVtr
I have been pondering that, and also been trying to figure out what the minimum angle is that would be required to not interrupt the gasflow. Or at least not as much..
A good challenge nonetheless.
But before I begin to fabricate anything for the wastegate, I would have get one first.
Need to know the measurements so I can keep that in account.
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do you know which wastegate you'll be using yet? I run a turbosmart 38mm, but really like the watercooled tial ones! I think the measurements of the turbosmart one are available online - sure I've seen a schematic of it somewhere before...
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