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5th May 2009, 17:47
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Standard VTR performance
Hello, I have come to this site in the hope of settling a debate i have been having with somebody about the performance of the citreon saxo vtr. Before i begin i want to make it clear i have nothing against saxo's and actually think that they are fun little cars so im not here to ruffle feathers.
These are the claims i am refuting and basically i just want your take on them, if enough owners agree with them then i will leave it at that:
-Saxo vtr mark 2 is a lot faster than a mark 1
-Vtr (mark 2) top speed is 132mph
-Vts top speed is 140mph+
-a mark 2 vtr will keep neck and neck with a clio sport upto 65mph (the other guy also claimed higher with him as the driver, but this was the general claim)
There were other things we disagreed on (i said the vtr was only a warm hatch (VTS is the hot hatch), whilst he maintains it is a hot hatch and should be compared to CTR's and Clio sports etc etc) but this is more subjective.
Cheers, captainroll.
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5th May 2009, 17:52
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Chesterfield
Posts: 666
Car(s): Saxo VTR MkII 2000(W) Posi Blue, VTR MK1 1998(R) P
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Wow! talk about throwing a smoke bomb in a Wasp's nest. I'm going to have another  and wait this one out.
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5th May 2009, 17:54
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Bournemouth
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Nah thats basicully all bollocks
Theres 10hp between phase one and two which isnt noticable.
Vtr's wont keep with 172/182's fettled vts's do.
Vtr does 120 with a very long road.
Vts does around 125 pushing 127 with an even longer road.
Anything else.?
Matt.
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5th May 2009, 17:55
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Location: york/ north yorkshire
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got to love the n00b questions tbh....
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5th May 2009, 17:55
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Kent
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1, No, both roughly the same.
2, No, I dont think so but am not 100%.
3, I dont know this one but would be surprised if it was.
4, The 0-60 times should show this wouldn't be the case.
The VTR is a fun hatch but not exactly hot. It has half the power of a CTR.
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5th May 2009, 18:03
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Thanks 
It's not so much a noob question as i was just trying to stop somebody making such inflated claims by showing him that even fellow owners do not agree with him.
Its causing a ridiculous thread over on another site with one guy making these claims and a lot of people replying. Trouble is that some of the other people are almost as bad the other way, so i thought this would be a good way of getting a reasoned opinion from other owners, particularly enthusiasts.
Nice forum by the way.
Cheers, captainroll
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5th May 2009, 18:07
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Location: Kent
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Lol, what forum is this on?
It sounds like someone is suffering from the famous VTR attitude.
I removed the fogs from mine to prevent me from catching it lol.
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5th May 2009, 18:07
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Kent
Posts: 8,205
Car(s): :(s)rac
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link to said forum?
and they do more than 120, not sure the exact speed, but the do over 120 as was proven by my brother when he was caught speeding...
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5th May 2009, 18:09
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: borders, and washington
Posts: 758
Car(s): mk1 vts and ltd edition corsa
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vts=hottest hatch of the 90's
vtr=not far behind
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5th May 2009, 18:10
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Established Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: southampton United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 1,881
Car(s): Super stripped VTS
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nicely constructed posts captainroll, not the usual and i commend your efforts.
clios and CTR are in a different league from any saxo, a stock one of course.
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5th May 2009, 18:10
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Just that 'carsurvey.org' one. It doesnt tell you who posted what though, so it means that anyone who argues with him looks like they immediately hate the saxo, which is not the case.
Funny you should mention the fogs as he did actually say something about front fogs being a major factor for having the car 
Cheers, captainroll
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5th May 2009, 18:13
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Saxperience Forum Bum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by camTcar
vts=hottest hatch of the 90's
vtr=not far behind
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Hmm...
Williams, 106 GTi?
Can 'O Worms tbh and will always be based on individual opinion.
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5th May 2009, 18:14
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: borders, and washington
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Car(s): mk1 vts and ltd edition corsa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyA
Hmm...
Williams, 106 GTi?
Can 'O Worms tbh and will always be based on individual opinion.
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hmmm true mate
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5th May 2009, 18:15
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Swansea
Posts: 4,946
Car(s): Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye,
Saxo VTS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by captainroll
-Saxo vtr mark 2 is a lot faster than a mark 1
-Vtr (mark 2) top speed is 132mph
-Vts top speed is 140mph+
-a mark 2 vtr will keep neck and neck with a clio sport upto 65mph (the other guy also claimed higher with him as the driver, but this was the general claim)
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-Not noticably quicker
-Fucking LOL'z
-Not fucking standard it ain't
-Possibly if the VTR is being ragged to death and the clio sport is being driven by my gran the way she likes to drive... SLLOOOWWWLLLYYYY.
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5th May 2009, 18:23
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Saxperience Forum Bum
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It has kind of been answered.
And you got the last one wrong.
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5th May 2009, 19:23
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Regular Poster
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 324
Car(s): Wicked Red Vtr.
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i think your find when you talk about hot hatch's its the look of the car not refering to the power
basically all french hatch backs are hot hatch's in my opinion 
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5th May 2009, 19:32
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Northampton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mischief
i think your find when you talk about hot hatch's its the look of the car not refering to the power
basically all french hatch backs are hot hatch's in my opinion |
My 206, is definately, NOT a hot hatch 
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5th May 2009, 19:35
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Regular Poster
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hampshire
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Car(s): Wicked Red Vtr.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderxjz82
My 206, is definately, NOT a hot hatch |
ok true the 206 is pug ugly 
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5th May 2009, 19:37
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by captainroll
Hello, I have come to this site in the hope of settling a debate i have been having with somebody about the performance of the citreon saxo vtr. Before i begin i want to make it clear i have nothing against saxo's and actually think that they are fun little cars so im not here to ruffle feathers.
These are the claims i am refuting and basically i just want your take on them, if enough owners agree with them then i will leave it at that:
-Saxo vtr mark 2 is a lot faster than a mark 1
-Vtr (mark 2) top speed is 132mph
-Vts top speed is 140mph+
-a mark 2 vtr will keep neck and neck with a clio sport upto 65mph (the other guy also claimed higher with him as the driver, but this was the general claim)
There were other things we disagreed on (i said the vtr was only a warm hatch (VTS is the hot hatch), whilst he maintains it is a hot hatch and should be compared to CTR's and Clio sports etc etc) but this is more subjective.
Cheers, captainroll.
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the speedo may indicate this but speedos show + 10%
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5th May 2009, 19:39
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Nottingham
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Car(s): None atm hopefully get a VTS at some point :)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mischief
ok true the 206 is pug ugly |
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