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10th December 2013, 23:55
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#161
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Stumbled across a JMF manifold with zircotec ceramic coating and couldn't help myself. Lets call it an early xmas present to start off the stockpile of parts.
They are highly rated from what I've read and work in conjuction with the standard turbo as well as a range of aftermarket turbos (including forced performance) so it suits my future plans and can also be utilised in the meantime.
Some pics of these manifolds... mmmmm
Last edited by matt_vtr_15a; 10th December 2013 at 23:58.
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11th December 2013, 07:45
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#162
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matt_vtr_15a
Stumbled across a JMF manifold with zircotec ceramic coating and couldn't help myself. Lets call it an early xmas present to start off the stockpile of parts.
They are highly rated from what I've read and work in conjuction with the standard turbo as well as a range of aftermarket turbos (including forced performance) so it suits my future plans and can also be utilised in the meantime.
Some pics of these manifolds... mmmmm
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By "stumbled across"
do you mean
"I've spent the last 2 months scouring eBay for sweet tuner parts for my naughty engine build, and when I finally couldn't help myself anymore this turned out to be the least ruinous item on my eBay watch list"
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11th December 2013, 08:48
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#163
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D4MJT
By "stumbled across"
do you mean
"I've spent the last 2 months scouring eBay for sweet tuner parts for my naughty engine build, and when I finally couldn't help myself anymore this turned out to be the least ruinous item on my eBay watch list"
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Haha definately not an ebay item mate!, £100 quidders on ebay that would probably spontaneously combust and explode after ten mins of driving!
Buy right buy once and all that.
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11th December 2013, 08:53
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#164
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Ah I didn't mean it was shonky dude my bad, sometimes you get decent 2nd hand bargains that people have never fitted etc
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11th December 2013, 09:08
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#165
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Oooooh that's a nice looking mani!
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11th December 2013, 09:08
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#166
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Originally Posted by D4MJT
Ah I didn't mean it was shonky dude my bad, sometimes you get decent 2nd hand bargains that people have never fitted etc
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Ahhh my bad..
Theres occasional the odd decent bit thst reaches ebay but mlr forum normqlly has plenty of meaty stuff. Makes me realise how much disposable income some people mustbhave though
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11th December 2013, 09:52
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#167
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Plans sounds really good. I really would love to own a evo as a track toy but i just dont think i could afford to do with having my own house too. Its just the running costs of them.
I think once my boosted saxos done it should more than be enough to fulfill my boost needs haha.
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11th December 2013, 11:54
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#168
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Originally Posted by jsdvtr
Plans sounds really good. I really would love to own a evo as a track toy but i just dont think i could afford to do with having my own house too. Its just the running costs of them.
I think once my boosted saxos done it should more than be enough to fulfill my boost needs haha.
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It's a mix really, it's a daily but more than ready for a few track sessions next year thanks to the previous owner.
In fairness the cars set-up is aimed much more at track anyway, it's geo set-up for it, the coil overs are set-up for it and the brakes are fast road/track spec (carbotech xp8's) which squeal their tits off for daily use as they just don't get hot enough.
I know what you mean about running costs though, I live on my own and have to pay all the bills and then run this on top of it. I only commute 15miles per week now and the rest is social on top of that is for enjoyment really.
When i lived with my parents I travelled probably 250miles per week, this car just wouldn't of been feasible for that imo especially as I aim to keep it fairly low mileage rather than bang 12k a year on it.
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11th December 2013, 13:42
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#169
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Bored at work and bought a bloody ecu now.....
It's an evo vi ralliart ecu running stage 1 mods as well as 'pops and bangs & launch control' so can get the apexi replaced and get it tweaked it to my car and the mani can go on at the same time.
(Lots of machine gun fire pops on overrun and massive gear change bangs.)
This is going to be done over Christmas if the local evo specialist can get me in or the first couple of weeks of the new year.
Going to push the boost to 1.5bar and with the mani on i'd imagine this should see me easily reach about 380bhp, but I don't want to run no more than that until the rod job is done.
I won't be using launch control unless I do a santa pod run etc. as it absolutely eats clutches alive.
Here is an example of pops and bangs and launch control..... I'll grow out of it after a few weeks... maybe.
(People refer to it as anti-lag, it makes the noise of anti-lag but doesn't actually create anti-lag)
My apexi ecu will be for sale once done which will cover the costs of the evo 6 ecu and mapping tweaks with enough money left over to fill the tank up
Last edited by matt_vtr_15a; 11th December 2013 at 13:59.
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11th December 2013, 15:44
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Hey Matt,
Can you not have it mapped on Speed Density on a 6? Would change the car to a smooth & very sharp, progressive throttle response with a car that will tick all the boxes for everyday driving, trackday or sprinting..
Have you looked into that?
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11th December 2013, 16:39
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#171
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You'll never tire of that. Sounds amazeballs
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11th December 2013, 17:06
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#172
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Told you the bills will add up it great what they can do with the standard ecu now shame they couldn't do all the stuff when I had my 6 I had to use the pfc and avcr boost controller
What boost control are you using
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11th December 2013, 17:45
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#173
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Originally Posted by leeroybrown
Hey Matt,
Can you not have it mapped on Speed Density on a 6? Would change the car to a smooth & very sharp, progressive throttle response with a car that will tick all the boxes for everyday driving, trackday or sprinting..
Have you looked into that?
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Yes it is going to be SD, my chosen tuner have sd mapped a few evos in the sprint series with great results.
Going mafless seems to be a great choice and It's amazing how versqtile the stabdard ecu is, knock control is a big plus to. The apexi I have on it is almost a dinosaur in comparison. Some massive numbers have been achieved on standard ecu with all the geekmappers about with the knowhow
http://www.geekmapped.com/forums/arc...hp/t-3953.html
Lee is an absolute god in the evo tuning department. Getting an evo 6 ecu from him actually, no longer the ralliart one though just a clean unabused evo 6 ecu to start a fresh from
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Originally Posted by Oli-VTR
You'll never tire of that. Sounds amazeballs
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Should be plenty of fun, switchable maps via intercooler switch to for high and low boost along with pops and bangs/launch on the higher boost map so it can be disengaged when required.
Can't beat that overrun rumble and chucking a flame and bang out on gearchange or at anyone who sits on you rear bunper
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Originally Posted by unclewinnet
Told you the bills will add up it great what they can do with the standard ecu now shame they couldn't do all the stuff when I had my 6 I had to use the pfc and avcr boost controller
What boost control are you using
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Yep I have the power fc ecu which is being ditched, and it's got an apexi avcr boost controller mate !
Last edited by matt_vtr_15a; 11th December 2013 at 21:54.
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12th December 2013, 22:39
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#174
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Soo I'm off at xmas for 3 weeks and just recieved my pay rise and bonus so booked in the following which is a 450/500 mile round trip but distance shouldn't matter when it comes to being mapped by the best in the business.
So here is the breakdown.... just paid a deposit to fix a date.. soo excited!!
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The SD conversion is the best conversion you can do, its like having a 2k ecu fitted for the price of a EcuTek map. We can fit you in and as its xmas I will do you a deal on it*I can do the full SD conversion including the twin maps, but this can not be done on the intercooler switch on the E6 because its not connected to the ecu, so we will have to fit a new switch.See if you like this...
-Remove Apexi ECU
-Supply & fit E6 Ecu
-Supply map Switch
-Fit map Switch
-1 x Maps Sensor
-1 x Air Temp Sensor
-2 x Wiring Harnesses for the aboveTwin Maps all set up on the DD rollers
Now the fun stuff..
Switchable maps low boost/high boost with features
Pops and Bangs
Launch control with full Rally Anti-Lag
Launch Control with Traction
All in for £760
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This will really transform my car and remove the restriction of the MAF which will give a much better ride and also unleash some extra ponies.
Low boost and high boost with all the goodies on high boost so its just a flick of a switch to engage or disengage launch/antilag etc.
Not sure what high boost ill be running yet as I dont want to exceed 380/390 bhp until a rod job has been done buthigh boost will be max. Of 1.6bar
Bring on the bangs!!!
Can anybody also recommend the best company for gauges? Thinking of getting a single din set-up with boost/ oil pressure / oil temp for instance as can all be eired up during ecu switchover.
Was tempted to get the oem mitsi triple gauge but it only runs up to 1.5bar boost so not particularly useful.
Last edited by matt_vtr_15a; 13th December 2013 at 00:35.
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13th December 2013, 06:18
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#175
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Seems a really good price,the car will be the dogs danglies
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13th December 2013, 07:06
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#176
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Originally Posted by Oli-VTR
My daily is completely stripped out, running minimal felt audio, buckets, harnesses. Yes it's 'just a saxo' but I've never been sat there thinking, damn I really wish I had some roof lining above me, and rather than finding the noise drones I'd say it I enjoy it. On motorway journeys it gets uncomfy, but that's almost entirely due to seat and suspension, which I can adjust band soften I just never do!
But yes, my 2 pence is that running a fully stri
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Glad I'm not the only one!t here's something about a raw car that's very satisfying,even as a daily! My vtr is the same!
Nice evo, deffinatley got the best looking one of the range! There's one of these near me, well worth the money!
Keep up the good work,
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13th December 2013, 11:01
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#177
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Originally Posted by wullvfr
Seems a really good price,the car will be the dogs danglies
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Cheers mate!!!
Last edited by matt_vtr_15a; 14th December 2013 at 14:11.
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14th December 2013, 14:08
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#178
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Bit more communication with my mapper and officially booked in before the new year, the man is an absolute wizard with these ecu's and has mapped many of the evos competing in sprint and time attack with great results.
I'll get before and after graphs so it will show the differences made.
Also going to have the car serviced with millers oils for engine, diff, ayc etc. whilst it's there. It's only covered about 3000 miles since last service but it was almost 6months ago so will do it for piece of mind.
Now have a good idea of the full system I'll be going for which can be tweaked, one big thing is I'll have knock control which is not available on the apexi I currently have.
Obviously having switchable maps so the flick of an in car switch gives me the following:
Map 1 - day to day use
Low boost (1-1.2 bar) with no extras.
This map is aimed at economy and be generally used thru the week when just nipping here and there. Also ideal if going in for MOT etc.
Map 2 - weekend / hardcorejoeboy racing mode
Moderate Boost (1.5/1.6bar) with goodies.
-Pops and bangs
-NLTS ( no lift to shift) wont be used often but ideal for 1/4mile & sprints
-launch control with full rally antilag.
Not having launch control with traction I don't think, seen many clips and it almost makes the engine bog down on launch to prevent any spinning and seems pretty pointless and a less effective launch than letting the ayc do its job. NOT FOR ME.
May seem a little OTT with some of the features but at least they are there for the future and will assist with any trackdays or 1/4 mile runs etc.
Last edited by matt_vtr_15a; 14th December 2013 at 14:14.
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14th December 2013, 14:30
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#179
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No lift to shift? This may sound like a stupid question but how does that work?
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14th December 2013, 14:43
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#180
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Originally Posted by GolfJay
No lift to shift? This may sound like a stupid question but how does that work?
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I'd assume it's going to work the same way an automatic gear box does in that it probably stops the throttle regardless of whether your foot is down or not. I'm guessing the only time it will save is the physical travel time of your foot and the reaction time though? EDIT: I assume autos work like that? Certainly feels like they cut throttle, change gear, re-engage throttle. Or another thought would be that it limits the revs at a certain amount so you can't bounce off the limited? I honestly don't know, just speculation.
Last edited by Giraffe; 14th December 2013 at 14:48.
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