Mobile Devices: Lite Theme Citroën: Citroën Trader | Saxo Trader | C2 Trader Peugeot: Peugeot Trader | 106 Trader Enthusiast: Saxperience


Go Back   Saxperience - Citroen Saxo Forum > Citroen Saxo Related Forums > Saxo Engine/Performance
Register Member Photo AlbumsBlogs FAQ Calendar Experience

Saxo Engine/Performance If you're interested in tuning Saxo engines, or if you need to know something which is engine related... this is the place for you.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 9th October 2007, 15:44   #1
Agent-VIP
Established Member
Yorkshire Region Member
 
Agent-VIP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Wakefield
Posts: 1,751
Car(s): Blue mk2 VTR, White MK2 VTS
iTrader Score: 9 (100%)
Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!
Default One litre of petrol.. weighs 0.747 KG..

One litre of petrol weighs 0.747 KG.. So, let's just call that 3/4.

I was just wondering.. if any of you were going for a race (Say, for instance the Sax-P few laps at Trax).. You spend so long, cutting down the weight of the car.. but then you fill it up with just £30 of petrol (say that's 30 litres..), and add another 22.5 KG of weight to your car..

Maybe a stupid question, but i was thinking about it when i was looking at the spec of a saxo.. how much is origionally weighs.. this popped in my mind.
__________________

andy.kerr
S a x : p e r i e n c e { Click for progress thread }
Agent-VIP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 15:50   #2
bridgesvtr90
Established Member
East Anglia Region Member
 
bridgesvtr90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Bedfordshire
Posts: 1,354
Car(s): saxo vtr
bridgesvtr90 is a splendid one to beholdbridgesvtr90 is a splendid one to beholdbridgesvtr90 is a splendid one to beholdbridgesvtr90 is a splendid one to beholdbridgesvtr90 is a splendid one to beholdbridgesvtr90 is a splendid one to behold
Default

and in the eveings the air is more dense with oxygen, so u get slightly better preformance
__________________
bridgesvtr90 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 15:53   #3
James
Saxperience Addict
Yorkshire Region Member
 
James's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hull
Posts: 11,909
Car(s): Beeeemer
iTrader Score: 12 (100%)
James is absolutely fabulous!James is absolutely fabulous!James is absolutely fabulous!James is absolutely fabulous!James is absolutely fabulous!James is absolutely fabulous!James is absolutely fabulous!James is absolutely fabulous!James is absolutely fabulous!James is absolutely fabulous!James is absolutely fabulous!
Default

When 1/4 miling I make sure I am just above the red line, it gives me enough petrol for 15 runs and to get to the nearest shell for v-powaaa. If I have to much petrol on the way down there.. I make sure it's used beforehand.
James is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 16:03   #4
frankie
Saxperience Addict
South West Region Member
 
frankie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset
Posts: 12,971
Car(s): VTRallye
iTrader Score: 18 (95%)
frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!
Default

all i know is 1litre of water wieghs 1 kg.
__________________
Progress Thread
frankie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 16:05   #5
Barry123
Saxperience Hardcore!
Track / Motorsport PrepContent ContributorCentral South Region MemberNorth East Region MemberYorkshire Region Member
 
Barry123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Aycliffe
Posts: 32,205
Car(s): Saxo VTS
iTrader Score: 7 (100%)
Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bridgesvtr90 View Post
and in the eveings the air is more dense with oxygen, so u get slightly better preformance
but you have an increased drag force.... so its crap for topspeed runs but good for high street drag runs.
Barry123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 16:21   #6
ad_182_uk
Established Member
 
ad_182_uk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,933
Car(s): MK3 Imperial Blue Ibiza Cupra.
iTrader Score: 18 (100%)
ad_182_uk will become famous soon enough
Default

yer so if you fill your car to the brim ur basically using fuel to carry fuel.
ad_182_uk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 16:24   #7
Agent-VIP
Established Member
Yorkshire Region Member
 
Agent-VIP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Wakefield
Posts: 1,751
Car(s): Blue mk2 VTR, White MK2 VTS
iTrader Score: 9 (100%)
Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!Agent-VIP is absolutely fabulous!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ad_182_uk View Post
yer so if you fill your car to the brim ur basically using fuel to carry fuel.
Yeah, so.. Instead of the government trying to get us to use public transport.. they should just make us have smaller petrol tanks! =D
__________________

andy.kerr
S a x : p e r i e n c e { Click for progress thread }
Agent-VIP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 16:25   #8
Barry123
Saxperience Hardcore!
Track / Motorsport PrepContent ContributorCentral South Region MemberNorth East Region MemberYorkshire Region Member
 
Barry123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Aycliffe
Posts: 32,205
Car(s): Saxo VTS
iTrader Score: 7 (100%)
Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ad_182_uk View Post
yer so if you fill your car to the brim ur basically using fuel to carry fuel.
yeah basically

the percentage weight increase for the saxo between no fuel and full tank is roughly 5%
Barry123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 16:31   #9
ad_182_uk
Established Member
 
ad_182_uk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,933
Car(s): MK3 Imperial Blue Ibiza Cupra.
iTrader Score: 18 (100%)
ad_182_uk will become famous soon enough
Default

i dnt usually put more than £20 in at a time. also if fuels always quoite low then ya mite tend to drive more fuel conservingly lol
ad_182_uk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 16:31   #10
Ste
Saxperience Post Whore
Yorkshire Region Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 5,415
Car(s): Saxo
iTrader Score: 8 (100%)
Ste is absolutely fabulous!Ste is absolutely fabulous!Ste is absolutely fabulous!Ste is absolutely fabulous!Ste is absolutely fabulous!Ste is absolutely fabulous!Ste is absolutely fabulous!Ste is absolutely fabulous!Ste is absolutely fabulous!Ste is absolutely fabulous!Ste is absolutely fabulous!
Default

And apparently the best air is found 8cm from the roads surface..........


(some engineer gimp hovering told me that)
__________________
Note to self; everyone else knows what there doing.
Ste is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 16:34   #11
Barry123
Saxperience Hardcore!
Track / Motorsport PrepContent ContributorCentral South Region MemberNorth East Region MemberYorkshire Region Member
 
Barry123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Aycliffe
Posts: 32,205
Car(s): Saxo VTS
iTrader Score: 7 (100%)
Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ste_1 View Post
And apparently the best air is found 8cm from the roads surface..........


(some engineer gimp hovering told me that)
interesting.... although i cant think why tbh...

maybe laminar flow of something.
Barry123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 16:36   #12
frankie
Saxperience Addict
South West Region Member
 
frankie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset
Posts: 12,971
Car(s): VTRallye
iTrader Score: 18 (95%)
frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!
Default

some good ole comments made in here.
__________________
Progress Thread
frankie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 16:40   #13
Karl
Saxperience Hardcore!
Central South Region MemberSouth East Region Member
 
Karl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Ashford
Posts: 25,611
Car(s): LY R26
iTrader Score: 10 (100%)
Karl is absolutely fabulous!Karl is absolutely fabulous!Karl is absolutely fabulous!Karl is absolutely fabulous!Karl is absolutely fabulous!Karl is absolutely fabulous!Karl is absolutely fabulous!Karl is absolutely fabulous!Karl is absolutely fabulous!Karl is absolutely fabulous!Karl is absolutely fabulous!
Default

im shaving my eyebrows to allow for endurance petrol....
.

...who really cares how much petrol weighs lol.
Karl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 16:49   #14
Barry123
Saxperience Hardcore!
Track / Motorsport PrepContent ContributorCentral South Region MemberNorth East Region MemberYorkshire Region Member
 
Barry123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Aycliffe
Posts: 32,205
Car(s): Saxo VTS
iTrader Score: 7 (100%)
Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulless View Post
im shaving my eyebrows to allow for endurance petrol....
.

...who really cares how much petrol weighs lol.
racers man, boy racers.
Barry123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 16:51   #15
frankie
Saxperience Addict
South West Region Member
 
frankie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset
Posts: 12,971
Car(s): VTRallye
iTrader Score: 18 (95%)
frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ste_1 View Post
And apparently the best air is found 8cm from the roads surface..........


(some engineer gimp hovering told me that)

what do mean by best air?

cleanest? coldest?
__________________
Progress Thread
frankie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 17:14   #16
frankie
Saxperience Addict
South West Region Member
 
frankie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset
Posts: 12,971
Car(s): VTRallye
iTrader Score: 18 (95%)
frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!
Default

vidal i know your watching.....you most know surely???l

lol
__________________
Progress Thread
frankie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 18:53   #17
Barry123
Saxperience Hardcore!
Track / Motorsport PrepContent ContributorCentral South Region MemberNorth East Region MemberYorkshire Region Member
 
Barry123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Aycliffe
Posts: 32,205
Car(s): Saxo VTS
iTrader Score: 7 (100%)
Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by frankie640 View Post
what do mean by best air?

cleanest? coldest?
probably least turbulent.
Barry123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 19:21   #18
bullit
Saxperience Hardcore!
 
bullit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: e-hollywood
Posts: 17,160
Car(s): toyata hilux
iTrader Score: 4 (100%)
bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloud View Post
When 1/4 miling I make sure I am just above the red line, it gives me enough petrol for 15 runs and to get to the nearest shell for v-powaaa. If I have to much petrol on the way down there.. I make sure it's used beforehand.
dildo

also in every instance, i never fill up. always put about 12 squid in
__________________
bullit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 19:24   #19
frankie
Saxperience Addict
South West Region Member
 
frankie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset
Posts: 12,971
Car(s): VTRallye
iTrader Score: 18 (95%)
frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
probably least turbulent.
oh rite. cheers for that.

*googles "least turbulent* cos im spethal.
__________________
Progress Thread
frankie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 19:27   #20
Barry123
Saxperience Hardcore!
Track / Motorsport PrepContent ContributorCentral South Region MemberNorth East Region MemberYorkshire Region Member
 
Barry123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Aycliffe
Posts: 32,205
Car(s): Saxo VTS
iTrader Score: 7 (100%)
Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!Barry123 is absolutely fabulous!
Default

flows better so you get less resistance in the intake.
air at lower levels is of a higher density
but close to the road on a mild day is warmer so i guess the 8cm figure is a trade off between that.
Barry123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 13:34.