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Old 28th October 2009, 17:29   #201
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Innovate LC1 is cheap. Naw is cheaper with a display (14point7.com). It wouldnt be hard to sort out the display business once youve got a controller.

Ive got this



Which ill prob sell shortly for about £50 delivered inc a case. Tis a JAW wideband controller and display. Works with any bosch wideband sensor, can find them off audis in the scrapper etc or i got one new delivered for £32

Tis like the megasquirt of widebands really but its pretty good. Has got pretty decent specs, has the hardware to do datalogging stored onto an onboard memory but its not implemented in the firmware yet
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Old 28th October 2009, 19:40   #202
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So you set it up on a laptop instead of a guage in the car? How much are the innovate ones?
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Old 28th October 2009, 20:10   #203
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Been looking at dump valve and t pieces but not sure about which one, Can i get one from any car aslong as the t piece is for same car as dump valve and then connect that too boost pipe using silicone hose?
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£150 from GMC but without display

The Jaw jobbie is a serious alternative thou, if a assembled unit with display is available 'get it'

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Arnt the Innovate LC1's the ones Andy fits manc.?? Be pritty cool to get a display unit for like.
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Could not get a in car display rather than needing laptop to use? I have my own laptop but just would like one have on all time.
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Arnt the Innovate LC1's the ones Andy fits manc.?? Be pritty cool to get a display unit for like.
Yes it is m8e, the above pictured displays are pretty cool for the money, you can get AFR gauge's to suit your's & mine LC-1 wideband, there not cheap thou I should know as I just spent £150 on the Innovate G3 AFR & boost gauges but that did include an expensive oil drain flange which the turbo kit didnt come with

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Could not get a in car display rather than needing laptop to use? I have my own laptop but just would like one have on all time.
Look at the link the Ryan posted, you'll see that the JAW gauge is on a flying lead which doesnt require a laptop, as its on the end of a lead you can position it on the dash somewhere.

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The needle type gauges just take a voltage range. Something like jaw you can configure. IE 9 afr =0v 19afr= 5v. So you can use any afr gauge with jaw.

But it also includes a display like the one in my pics, Can be placed anywhere, and daisy chained, you could ahve 4 displays wired in with egt, boost, rpm and afr. The displays are only £15 each ish!!

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Ryan that looks like a really neat solution, you should get a couple made up and sell them as there seems to be no one selling prebuilt units, you would definatley have a few customer on here

I have two lambda points on my downpipe so could plum in a second o2 gauge in for peace of mind that i'm not running lean/rich

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Ryan that looks like a really neat solution, you should get a couple made up and sell them as there seems to be no one selling prebuilt units, you would definatley have a few customer on here

I have two lambda points on my downpipe so could plum in a second o2 gauge in for peace of mind that i'm not running lean/rich

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Sounds like a good idea to me tbh.
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Im getting a vts astandard mani with the engine getting. How can i get it adapted to get turbo on like the plate?
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Anyone tell me this? As will get it done soon. And do you use the bottom part to make downpipe?
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no don't do it that way although it may be fine it wont be great and welding cast is a twat
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Where can i get a ok turbo mani from thats not to expensive? Ive seen the ones that are new on ebay for £200 that seem ok.
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just get that s/s steel manifold off ebay ryanmt has get a t25 or t2 which will bolt right onto that manifold all you need to make is the downpipe then which will be piss easy.
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Can i get the downpipe made at somewhere that makes exhausts? As my mate works in one and can get it done cheap.
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Do i need a adapter for turbo to adapt to downpipe? How can i use the standard mani for turbo for the time being? Just want to get it running then upgrade in the near future. Im not too bothered about it costing abit more, etc. I just want a base then upgrade certain parts.
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Maybe getting a forge intercooler.
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