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23rd July 2009, 08:13
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
Dave the car looks like a weapon.Im Sure if you were to publish a magazine on it, and pass it round, there would be some very sticky pages!
 May see it in the flesh one day.
Maybe sort the ecu issue, dont want it to fail in germany 
I have a 3 plugger mapped to 708's for sale if u want it as a get me home?  |
Thanks for the comments mate.  It does pretty good round the track. Will be a lot faster in the very near future.
That's OK about the ECU. I don't know whether that's the issue at the moment, could be a million and one different things... 
Proper ECU going in soon.
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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28th July 2009, 08:29
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Popped into the local RR this afternoon. Thought if i'm going to get bodies soon, might be interesting to get a little before and after done...
This was the best out of the first 3 runs:
Not very impessive eh? 120bhp at the fly. Look how crazy the plot is too. :noo:
We noticed that there were some errors on the ECU. Which were:
1) Single / multiple misfire detected
2) Air leak detected
3) ECM / PCM processor malfunction - I've had this ever since Wayne mapped the ECU.
We cleared those, and did a run straight after and got this:
137bhp at the fly. Much better, a much smoother curve too. Still, way down on power. I had it on the same rollers over a year ago and it made 150bhp.
The car also feels really rough around 2000 - 2500rpm. Kindda makes a "na na na na na na" noise, and is a little jerky. Really don't know whether to carry on with it or just flog it now TBH. If I KNEW bodies would make it all gravy, I'd probably do it. But I'm worried there might be some underlying issues, and i'm not sure whether to throw more moeny into it now or not... 
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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28th July 2009, 08:35
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Bit of a shame mate but the problem may only be something simple!.
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28th July 2009, 09:53
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thats a bit of shit result, but its on the road where it really counts, how does it feel apart from the 2-2500rpm Toad?
First graph is shocking tbh, but much smoother after the faults were cleared.
I'd say after you remove half of the shit french sensors (by going boddies) & have a nice reliable ecu your going to be happy mate. I can recommend the kms, had only a couple of weird issues with mine (wideband got stuck for 2mins once), but apart from that its sweet, and just to prove it, it started up first time after being stood for 6months with wideband working spot on! I know a few people have had issues but i wouldnt let that put you off the kms.
p.s better get it sorted as we'll be on the way to the ring in 3weeks & 2 days 
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28th July 2009, 09:56
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Ditch the 3 plug, you are going to need a proper ECU for TB's anyway!
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28th July 2009, 10:06
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Thanks for the 'pep' talk. 
I think the sooner I can get a real ECU in there, the better.
Seriously worried about das ring!
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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28th July 2009, 10:39
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Seriously worried about das ring!
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Why..?
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28th July 2009, 10:58
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Car running like shit. People crashing...
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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28th July 2009, 11:54
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Originally Posted by Toad
Car running like shit. People crashing... |
get it sorted then! & Man up, course accidents are going to happen, thats motorsport for you, just be careful
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28th July 2009, 12:33
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Neither graphs have particularly good curves. Did Wayne use a generic map or did he live map if for you?
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I hear nottinghams nice....
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I heard a prick with a quiff stays there.
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28th July 2009, 12:53
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chin up mate, you have got good plans wich will 100% improve the power to what is expected.
as for the ring.... find some balls and strap them on !! 
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28th July 2009, 13:16
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Originally Posted by saxo180
Neither graphs have particularly good curves. Did Wayne use a generic map or did he live map if for you?
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A live map I would have hoped!
This is the worst RR result I've ever had. Not sure what's going on. The ECU was in some kind of limp mode before the DTCs were erased. Perhaps it needs a little while to settle back in? Worth another RR TBH.
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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28th July 2009, 13:16
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hmmmm that graph is shit....
better speed up with the bodies
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28th July 2009, 13:17
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Originally Posted by dannygti
chin up mate, you have got good plans wich will 100% improve the power to what is expected.
as for the ring.... find some balls and strap them on !! |
Yes mate, plans are still alive!
After seeing what happened to Ry, and seeing that it wasn't his fault, it's put the fear into me!
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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28th July 2009, 13:23
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hear a few problems with chipwizard maps!!
also has he had the dyno re caliabrated since you had the runs done there last time?
cars looks soon nice though, and your plans should help bring the power up!
Andy
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28th July 2009, 13:24
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Thats not good to hear dude. If you still are on you 3 plugger re-map for the ring trip you can borrow that spare ecu i have thats mapped as a get me home! (aslong ass i get it back)
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28th July 2009, 13:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndySAXOK
hear a few problems with chipwizard maps!!
also has he had the dyno re caliabrated since you had the runs done there last time?
cars looks soon nice though, and your plans should help bring the power up!
Andy
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Yeah... Seems to change its mind like the weather.
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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28th July 2009, 13:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sax-oli
Thats not good to hear dude. If you still are on you 3 plugger re-map for the ring trip you can borrow that spare ecu i have thats mapped as a get me home! (aslong ass i get it back)
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Tell me a little more about this ECU mate?
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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28th July 2009, 13:37
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Was mapped to 708's pugsport exhuast, decat and simota induction iirc. Have no idea how itll run your engine as you had problems before with the bv head didnt you? But if yours gives up the ghost itll get you home i guess.
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28th July 2009, 13:45
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No issues with the head. However, it was mapped before the head went on, and also with an exhaust which wouldn't allow more power than 140bhp. Sorted the exhaust, then it made 153 on Wyane's rollers, without altering the map. He said that was par for the course on the 3 pluggers, so we left it at that.
I put the BV head in about 6 months afterwards.
Did you use this ECU then? DId you ever have issues with the management light coming on? I get ECM / PCM failure on constant. Always comes back after clearing. Wayne didn't know what to do about it, but didn't think it affected the mapping...
Anyway, it's clear as day, that yesterday's efforts of clearing the DTCs made a big difference. It was in some kind of limp mode. How? I don't know... But interestingly, the limp mode didn't seem to affect the fuelling, as it was still safe.
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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