toyo r888 not cut slick - Saxperience

sexy_gt · 13th August 2011, 15:29

looking for slicks for the car at the moment (7x15" rim), thinking r888 are a good tyre but why dont they offer them as an uncut full slick?

anyone agree these would sell.

loudandproud205 · 13th August 2011, 16:34

Nope as there E marked for road use.

You can't have slicks on the road so it is just a race tyre and there are already better slick tyre's than Toyo

sexy_gt · 13th August 2011, 17:24

hi lee, i mean as a pure track tyre as im looking for slicks.

i can only find silverstone ftz full slicks in an 15" £144 each delivered. not too bad but a new tyre and not the reputation of the 888.

loudandproud205 · 13th August 2011, 18:27

It only has its rep due to the road tire aspect of it.

Silverstones will out perform R888's as will any slick TBH

Cant say as I have looked for slicks recently, but last time I did there were some nice but expensive Yoko's

AlexB^p · 13th August 2011, 19:09

An r888 amd a slick are pretty different an r888 compound iirc would be a pretty hard one for a slick and the fact a lot of the r888 is designed to get am e mark which a slick would never achieve means you may aswell buy full slicks

Im looking do possibly downsize my wheels and brakes to allow cheaper slicks and save some unsprung weight

266mm high specs and some 14s with r888s and a set of 13s with full slicks on as can get used ones pretty cheap relatively easily

sexy_gt · 13th August 2011, 21:49

im looking to go onto 225 wide tho, not sure if i can with smaller wheels, know how u feel about the price on 15" tyres

ive heard them medium compound silverstones slicks wear very quickly at £600 im a little cautious on them.

loudandproud205 · 13th August 2011, 23:49

Why do you feel the need to go 225 wide?

At cost of ruining the handling for possibly more grip?

I run 215s on the back of my MR2 and cant say I struggle and its throwing nigh on 300 bhp threw its back wheels

dannygti · 13th August 2011, 23:56

there is also a reason i havnt gone any wider, as it will possibly disturb the handling, id like to try it but dont fancy spending £200 a tyre for me not to go any faster.

sexy_gt · 14th August 2011, 08:23

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Originally Posted by loudandproud205

Why do you feel the need to go 225 wide?

At cost of ruining the handling for possibly more grip?

I run 215s on the back of my MR2 and cant say I struggle and its throwing nigh on 300 bhp threw its back wheels

seen a few of the civic lads doing so, even with the atb and 195 888s i get wheelspin in 3rd at times on track, more rubber, more grip, less slip.

lee your rears may have 300 but my fronts are steering braking and putting power down

if theyre killing the handling then i will sell on.

AndySAXO^p · 14th August 2011, 08:58

Hmm I can get you a set of silverstone tryes at 480 a set.

The silverstone tryes are nothing like a 888, totally different silverstone have alot stiff sidewalls.

And the tread wear on there silverstone tyres is 40!!!!

So will wear out alot faster, and sue to the compound they are more a hill climb sprint trye.

But the grip they give is so much better than other semi slicks,

AndySAXO^p · 14th August 2011, 09:06

Look on the website service and sport at the mag about the silverstone tryes vs the rest.

sexy_gt · 14th August 2011, 09:12

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Originally Posted by AndySAXO

Hmm I can get you a set of silverstone tryes at 480 a set.

The silverstone tryes are nothing like a 888, totally different silverstone have alot stiff sidewalls.

And the tread wear on there silverstone tyres is 40!!!!

So will wear out alot faster, and sue to the compound they are more a hill climb sprint trye.

But the grip they give is so much better than other semi slicks,

yes 40 very soft! thank you for the offer

AlexB^p · 14th August 2011, 11:21

Wider tyres doesnt nessecerily mean more tyre contact patch....

The fact you just have more hub weight means itll stuggle with handeling

sexy_gt · 14th August 2011, 12:10

input welcome

so keeping it about 200 wide what full slicks are there?

avon cant find any!
silverstone hear they wear very quickly

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888 ao48 the only tyres readily available that last?

andywiddss1 · 14th August 2011, 20:48

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Originally Posted by sexy_gt

input welcome

so keeping it about 200 wide what full slicks are there?

avon cant find any!
silverstone hear they wear very quickly

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888 ao48 the only tyres readily available that last?

try southshore tyres in blackpool

or ears motorsport

my mate runs a rally team and buys lots of different compounds from southshore tyes

http://www.hankookmotorsport.com/products.asp?id=6

z209 come in 3 different compounds ,all depends how much u wanna pay fella

even something like this will give u more grip than ao48 o888

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/195-50-15-...item2a0ac5afaf

AndySAXO^p · 15th August 2011, 11:48

mate, most full slick/race tryes will wear faster than say 888, or a048, as they use hard compounds due to been using on the road too.

the silverstone type RR i use, which is there cut slick, can be using on the road but really i would advice not to.

this is due to the way the tyre is made and is full steel constuction, and wear faster than others.

they offer alot more grip that all the other, but the down side is the wear rate. but i had two track days, and few laps of the ring, still have some life left in them, say a good two more track days.

that is the T5 compound which is the medium.

i might go for the hard compound which i believe has a tread wear of 70.

i can get all the silverstone tryes for 480. that the ones i use and there full slick.

i will gettiing a set of the full slick next year to give them ago.

they did tell me, that really there not much between the cut slick vs the slick, there is a bit,

this is because the silverstone type RR tyre is made from a full race compound and construction. so are alot stiff than the likes are a048, 888,

but for the price the federal 595 rsr would be a very good trye, alot of people say these grip just aswell as 888, maybe abit better.

i tryed both the silverstone and 595. the silverstone holds on alot better, and turning in on the silverstone due to the stiff sidewalls, is alot better.

hope that helps.

also looking at the hankook tyres in the post above the z211 have same tread wear as the type RR.

andywiddss1 · 15th August 2011, 13:03

it always a big trade off between grip and wear rate

AndySAXO^p · 15th August 2011, 13:18

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Originally Posted by andywiddss1

it always a big trade off between grip and wear rate

yer i know, i was just pointing it out to op saying about wear rate...

but it is expensive, i plan to get some sliverstone full slicks, and get some federals also for next year.

and use the full slicks at points on track days, and use the federals as my main tryes as like people say it expensive if they wear fast so to get life out of my tryes might do it that way.

just an option for him.