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9th October 2007, 23:03
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206 180 gti engine in a saxo.
will it fit in a saxo?
i know its guna upset handleing!!!!!!!!!!!
but will it fit?
cheers sean.
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9th October 2007, 23:38
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anything with the right amount of time, money and effort will fit.
a 306 gti-6 engine fits iirc, but its weather the upset is so drastic that its not worth doing.
plus i'd go for a vtec type r or a hayabusa engine, in the back!
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9th October 2007, 23:40
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i spsoe. sod it ill keep the vts engine.
engine in the back.....theres where tha magic happens.lol
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11th October 2007, 22:21
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if ur wanting speed y not chip the vts engine and diffrent cams
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11th October 2007, 22:27
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because, if i start at 180hp and do that more powwwwwwer
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11th October 2007, 22:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deanovts
if ur wanting speed y not chip the vts engine and diffrent cams
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we dont chip on here
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11th October 2007, 22:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frankie640
because, if i start at 180hp and do that more powwwwwwer
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if your serious, speak to bic otherwise cam your engine, should be more than enough
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11th October 2007, 22:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bullit
if your serious, speak to bic otherwise cam your engine, should be more than enough
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well ive spoken to a few people and tbh, it doesnt see worth it.
the onli cars that have these kinda engines are show cars. so i think im guna tune my vts engine up, should she a fair amount of power and wont effect the handleing.
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11th October 2007, 22:52
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ive just bought a vtr with a vts engine fitted its got a 206 rallye ecu with a piggyback chip dnt no what the cams r but since buying it last week i have beat a clio 172 and a civic type r, which has increased my penis by two inches so far
Last edited by Ryan; 13th October 2007 at 05:21.
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11th October 2007, 23:11
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congratulations.
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12th October 2007, 02:01
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The EW isnt that much heavier than a VTS engine, its all alloy. Yes itll go in, its not that hard if you have the time and fabrication skill to put it in (I sized up a 182 engine into a Saxo), but if the engine itself fits,the limiting factor is always in the management.
The 180 engine has a variable intake cam. The ECU controls the cam timing, so to keep that, you need to run the standard ECU or get an aftermarket kit that can run forms of VVT.
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12th October 2007, 18:57
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the gti 180 lumps are 1 of the hardest engines to tune unles u willin to spend alot of money wich sounds like ur not. ur lookin at 500 easy for that lump and another 500 to get it runnin properly. for a grand u could see a vts make 160-170 bhp and will be leavin gti 180's for dead. i used to beat them up to 80mph in my 130bhp vtr
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12th October 2007, 20:55
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Quote:
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congratulations.
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LMAO!
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13th October 2007, 05:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deanovts
if ur wanting speed y not chip the vts engine and diffrent cams
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chips are you retarded or do you work for mcain?
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13th October 2007, 15:43
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twin turbo
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13th October 2007, 22:13
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ever thought about a jet engine taped to the roof?
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13th October 2007, 22:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frankie640
because, if i start at 180hp and do that more powwwwwwer
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these lumps ARE NOT 180 bhp ! ! ! !
the very first few out of the factory were truely 180bhp, but the 206 gearbox couldnt handle the power and hence the cars were recalled.
the cars recalled were then detuned instead of the gearboxes being uprated.
from then on the 206 gti 180's came out of the factory with a bhp more around 160ish.....
this was cheaper for peugeot to do than uprate the entire gearbox series, typical french !
a peugeot technician told me
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13th October 2007, 22:30
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as gabbastard said an all alluminium engine woulndt be much heavier than a vts engine, if the 180 engine is 20kg heavier than a vts which i doubt it is then you could move the battery to the boot and put a carbon fibre bonnet and youve just lost the weight youve gained with the engine, granted the engine will sit lower.you could then change the dampers and springs.
at the end of the day where i work we use engines from bike engines to ove 4litre v8's in the same sort of chasis and the cars still handle incredibly well.
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13th October 2007, 23:54
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Interesting sounding job danny, who you work for?
LS1 engines are ridiculously light for a near 6litre V8.
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14th October 2007, 00:26
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i work for westfield sportscars matey. yh the new corvette engie are really good, the ls-7 engine is immensely light for a 7 litr also and 512bhp.thats why all the "big"kit cars like ultima and gardna&douglas are using them.
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