Mobile Devices: Lite Theme Citroën: Citroën Trader | Saxo Trader | C2 Trader Peugeot: Peugeot Trader | 106 Trader Enthusiast: Saxperience


Go Back   Saxperience - Citroen Saxo Forum > Citroen Saxo Related Forums > Saxo Engine/Performance
Register Member Photo AlbumsBlogs FAQ Calendar Experience

Saxo Engine/Performance If you're interested in tuning Saxo engines, or if you need to know something which is engine related... this is the place for you.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 9th October 2007, 23:03   #1
frankie
Saxperience Addict
South West Region Member
 
frankie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset
Posts: 12,971
Car(s): VTRallye
iTrader Score: 18 (95%)
frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!
Default 206 180 gti engine in a saxo.

will it fit in a saxo?

i know its guna upset handleing!!!!!!!!!!!

but will it fit?

cheers sean.
__________________
Progress Thread
frankie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 23:38   #2
jeeves_101
Saxperience Forum Bum
South West Region Member
 
jeeves_101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Weston-S-Mare
Posts: 3,713
Car(s): Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5
iTrader Score: 12 (100%)
jeeves_101 is absolutely fabulous!jeeves_101 is absolutely fabulous!jeeves_101 is absolutely fabulous!jeeves_101 is absolutely fabulous!jeeves_101 is absolutely fabulous!jeeves_101 is absolutely fabulous!jeeves_101 is absolutely fabulous!jeeves_101 is absolutely fabulous!jeeves_101 is absolutely fabulous!jeeves_101 is absolutely fabulous!jeeves_101 is absolutely fabulous!
Default

anything with the right amount of time, money and effort will fit.

a 306 gti-6 engine fits iirc, but its weather the upset is so drastic that its not worth doing.

plus i'd go for a vtec type r or a hayabusa engine, in the back!
__________________
MY PROGRESS THREAD - http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89085
PG Tips monkey FTW
jeeves_101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th October 2007, 23:40   #3
frankie
Saxperience Addict
South West Region Member
 
frankie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset
Posts: 12,971
Car(s): VTRallye
iTrader Score: 18 (95%)
frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!
Default

i spsoe. sod it ill keep the vts engine.


engine in the back.....theres where tha magic happens.lol
__________________
Progress Thread
frankie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th October 2007, 22:21   #4
deanovts
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 4
deanovts is on a distinguished road
Default

if ur wanting speed y not chip the vts engine and diffrent cams
deanovts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th October 2007, 22:27   #5
frankie
Saxperience Addict
South West Region Member
 
frankie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset
Posts: 12,971
Car(s): VTRallye
iTrader Score: 18 (95%)
frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!
Default

because, if i start at 180hp and do that more powwwwwwer
__________________
Progress Thread
frankie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th October 2007, 22:31   #6
bullit
Saxperience Hardcore!
 
bullit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: e-hollywood
Posts: 17,160
Car(s): toyata hilux
iTrader Score: 4 (100%)
bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by deanovts View Post
if ur wanting speed y not chip the vts engine and diffrent cams
we dont chip on here
__________________
bullit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th October 2007, 22:32   #7
bullit
Saxperience Hardcore!
 
bullit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: e-hollywood
Posts: 17,160
Car(s): toyata hilux
iTrader Score: 4 (100%)
bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!bullit is absolutely fabulous!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by frankie640 View Post
because, if i start at 180hp and do that more powwwwwwer
if your serious, speak to bic otherwise cam your engine, should be more than enough
__________________
bullit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th October 2007, 22:37   #8
frankie
Saxperience Addict
South West Region Member
 
frankie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset
Posts: 12,971
Car(s): VTRallye
iTrader Score: 18 (95%)
frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bullit View Post
if your serious, speak to bic otherwise cam your engine, should be more than enough
well ive spoken to a few people and tbh, it doesnt see worth it.

the onli cars that have these kinda engines are show cars. so i think im guna tune my vts engine up, should she a fair amount of power and wont effect the handleing.
__________________
Progress Thread
frankie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th October 2007, 22:52   #9
deanovts
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 4
deanovts is on a distinguished road
Default

ive just bought a vtr with a vts engine fitted its got a 206 rallye ecu with a piggyback chip dnt no what the cams r but since buying it last week i have beat a clio 172 and a civic type r, which has increased my penis by two inches so far

Last edited by Ryan; 13th October 2007 at 05:21.
deanovts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th October 2007, 23:11   #10
frankie
Saxperience Addict
South West Region Member
 
frankie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset
Posts: 12,971
Car(s): VTRallye
iTrader Score: 18 (95%)
frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!frankie is absolutely fabulous!
Default

congratulations.
__________________
Progress Thread
frankie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th October 2007, 02:01   #11
Gabbastard
Saxperience Post Whore
Track / Motorsport Prep
 
Gabbastard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 8,390
iTrader Score: 16 (100%)
Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!
Default

The EW isnt that much heavier than a VTS engine, its all alloy. Yes itll go in, its not that hard if you have the time and fabrication skill to put it in (I sized up a 182 engine into a Saxo), but if the engine itself fits,the limiting factor is always in the management.

The 180 engine has a variable intake cam. The ECU controls the cam timing, so to keep that, you need to run the standard ECU or get an aftermarket kit that can run forms of VVT.
Gabbastard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th October 2007, 18:57   #12
R66CE_O_vtr
Regular Poster
South East Region MemberEast Anglia Region Member
 
R66CE_O_vtr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: chelmsford, essex
Posts: 304
Car(s): lupo turbo 330bhp
R66CE_O_vtr is on a distinguished road
Default

the gti 180 lumps are 1 of the hardest engines to tune unles u willin to spend alot of money wich sounds like ur not. ur lookin at 500 easy for that lump and another 500 to get it runnin properly. for a grand u could see a vts make 160-170 bhp and will be leavin gti 180's for dead. i used to beat them up to 80mph in my 130bhp vtr
R66CE_O_vtr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th October 2007, 20:55   #13
rushy_23
Saxperience Hardcore!
West Midlands Region Member
 
rushy_23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: West Mids
Posts: 15,392
Car(s): '98 EK9 N1
iTrader Score: 18 (100%)
rushy_23 is absolutely fabulous!rushy_23 is absolutely fabulous!rushy_23 is absolutely fabulous!rushy_23 is absolutely fabulous!rushy_23 is absolutely fabulous!rushy_23 is absolutely fabulous!rushy_23 is absolutely fabulous!rushy_23 is absolutely fabulous!rushy_23 is absolutely fabulous!rushy_23 is absolutely fabulous!rushy_23 is absolutely fabulous!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by frankie640 View Post
congratulations.
LMAO!
__________________
<a href=http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48451 target=_blank><img src=http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/rushy_23/Avatars%20and%20Junk/2007Sig.jpg border=0 class=tcattdimglinksigs onload=NcodeImageResizer.createOnSigs(this); alt= />
rushy_23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 05:20   #14
Ryanp
Super Moderator
Track / Motorsport Prep
 
Ryan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 38,236
Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
iTrader Score: 11 (100%)
Ryan is absolutely fabulous!Ryan is absolutely fabulous!Ryan is absolutely fabulous!Ryan is absolutely fabulous!Ryan is absolutely fabulous!Ryan is absolutely fabulous!Ryan is absolutely fabulous!Ryan is absolutely fabulous!Ryan is absolutely fabulous!Ryan is absolutely fabulous!Ryan is absolutely fabulous!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by deanovts View Post
if ur wanting speed y not chip the vts engine and diffrent cams
chips are you retarded or do you work for mcain?
__________________
God made beer, women and Throttle bodies
Ryan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 15:43   #15
Sophia_Bush
Saxperience Post Whore
Track / Motorsport Prep
 
Sophia_Bush's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 9,994
Car(s): Moonstone Blue 106 GTi
iTrader Score: 33 (100%)
Sophia_Bush is as cool as a cucumber!Sophia_Bush is as cool as a cucumber!Sophia_Bush is as cool as a cucumber!Sophia_Bush is as cool as a cucumber!Sophia_Bush is as cool as a cucumber!Sophia_Bush is as cool as a cucumber!Sophia_Bush is as cool as a cucumber!Sophia_Bush is as cool as a cucumber!Sophia_Bush is as cool as a cucumber!Sophia_Bush is as cool as a cucumber!Sophia_Bush is as cool as a cucumber!
Default

twin turbo
__________________
Leave Me Lonely
Sophia_Bush is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 22:13   #16
Lukejones01
Regular Poster
South East Region Member
 
Lukejones01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: A Place
Posts: 340
Car(s): Swift Sport
Lukejones01 will become famous soon enoughLukejones01 will become famous soon enough
Default

ever thought about a jet engine taped to the roof?
__________________
Spinach for popeye and and M60 for jesus
Lukejones01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 22:30   #17
TypeRhys
Saxperience Forum Bum
South Wales Region Member
 
TypeRhys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Abergavenny
Posts: 3,561
Car(s): Accord Type R
iTrader Score: 2 (100%)
TypeRhys has a brilliant futureTypeRhys has a brilliant futureTypeRhys has a brilliant futureTypeRhys has a brilliant futureTypeRhys has a brilliant futureTypeRhys has a brilliant futureTypeRhys has a brilliant futureTypeRhys has a brilliant futureTypeRhys has a brilliant futureTypeRhys has a brilliant futureTypeRhys has a brilliant future
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by frankie640 View Post
because, if i start at 180hp and do that more powwwwwwer

these lumps ARE NOT 180 bhp ! ! ! !

the very first few out of the factory were truely 180bhp, but the 206 gearbox couldnt handle the power and hence the cars were recalled.
the cars recalled were then detuned instead of the gearboxes being uprated.

from then on the 206 gti 180's came out of the factory with a bhp more around 160ish.....
this was cheaper for peugeot to do than uprate the entire gearbox series, typical french !

a peugeot technician told me
TypeRhys is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 22:30   #18
dannygti
Saxperience Post Whore
Track / Motorsport Prep
 
dannygti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: dudley United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 6,789
Car(s): 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
iTrader Score: 4 (100%)
dannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team member
Default

as gabbastard said an all alluminium engine woulndt be much heavier than a vts engine, if the 180 engine is 20kg heavier than a vts which i doubt it is then you could move the battery to the boot and put a carbon fibre bonnet and youve just lost the weight youve gained with the engine, granted the engine will sit lower.you could then change the dampers and springs.

at the end of the day where i work we use engines from bike engines to ove 4litre v8's in the same sort of chasis and the cars still handle incredibly well.
__________________
Boost pressure is underrated
dannygti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 23:54   #19
Gabbastard
Saxperience Post Whore
Track / Motorsport Prep
 
Gabbastard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 8,390
iTrader Score: 16 (100%)
Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!Gabbastard is a great team player!
Default

Interesting sounding job danny, who you work for?

LS1 engines are ridiculously light for a near 6litre V8.
Gabbastard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th October 2007, 00:26   #20
dannygti
Saxperience Post Whore
Track / Motorsport Prep
 
dannygti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: dudley United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 6,789
Car(s): 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
iTrader Score: 4 (100%)
dannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team memberdannygti is a well respected team member
Default

i work for westfield sportscars matey. yh the new corvette engie are really good, the ls-7 engine is immensely light for a 7 litr also and 512bhp.thats why all the "big"kit cars like ultima and gardna&douglas are using them.
__________________
Boost pressure is underrated
dannygti is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 16:47.