toyo r888 not cut slick - Page 3 - Saxperience

sexy_gt · 29th January 2012, 20:52

Power on,rear end drops front lifts so loss of traction?

mark1311 · 29th January 2012, 21:18

Maybe little off subject but the r888 only come in in 185/60 r14, just wondering if they fit as there 300 a set an the ad048 in 14's are right profile 50, but are Over 400 a set?

Cheers

Dave_P · 29th January 2012, 21:51

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Originally Posted by sexy_gt

Power on,rear end drops front lifts so loss of traction?

Pretty much, weight transfer & all that.

What lb are your front springs?

sexy_gt · 1st February 2012, 17:21

155 lbs,

sexy_gt · 1st February 2012, 17:21

mark r888 are a better tyre imo

mark1311 · 1st February 2012, 18:17

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Originally Posted by sexy_gt

mark r888 are a better tyre imo

hmm, your 1st person ive heard say that, what do you prefer to the r888's?

bit late now got a brand new set of a048's delivered yestoday

sexy_gt · 1st February 2012, 18:20

check your post typo, ado48. i know of a ad08 tyre thought you was refering to that. its more of a road tyre...

however, ive never ran a048 myslef.

i do like my r888 tho.

i have also used r1r toyo and found them to be great in damp conditions.

mark1311 · 1st February 2012, 18:36

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Originally Posted by sexy_gt

check your post typo, ado48. i know of a ad08 tyre thought you was refering to that. its more of a road tyre...

however, ive never ran a048 myslef.

i do like my r888 tho.

i have also used r1r toyo and found them to be great in damp conditions.

just noticed i put it on here to

. sorry ment the a048's.

i was looking at a set of r1r toyos for damp/wet and keep these for try but there only in 15's... and ideal wont to keep all my sets at 14's. even though i do have a set of 15's speedline comp2's knocking about... hmm

sexy_gt · 1st February 2012, 18:53

r1r are well priced for a 15, so are the federal rsr's. im going to be using the r1r for snetterton on the 12th feb.

solvi · 1st February 2012, 20:57

go slick....

Dave_P · 2nd February 2012, 17:41

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Originally Posted by sexy_gt

155 lbs,

For track use (only?) your car is rather soft, i'm thinking 250lb + & 23mm bars for a track car...

If you fit slicks stiffer still.

sexy_gt · 2nd February 2012, 17:56

its track only, but i say this i do drive to the track, somethime for 3 hrs at a time.

im quite happy for now, im building a charged engine, ask me then lol

rear bars are on the to do list. will only go to 21mm to start with, dont want a drastic change as its great as it is.

Dave_P · 2nd February 2012, 18:23

Your wasting your time with 21's, 23's are still soft.

sexy_gt · 2nd February 2012, 18:43

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Originally Posted by Dave_P

Your wasting your time with 21's, 23's are still soft.

i hear what your saying but i may try a test in a mates car first if i can, said the same about a charger, bought the whole car lol.

vtectransplant · 2nd February 2012, 21:11

I have run the following tyres on track on various cars....

Yoko A048
Toyo R888
Toyo T1R
Toyo T1S
Federal 595RSR
Federal FZ201 (road legal semi slick)
Dunlop SLicks

IMO A048's win hands down on everything apart from Cost. Slicks bring another dimension but unless you're competing I wouldn't bother. I spent nearly £600 on 13" slicks for my Metro vtec and the grip was good, but not twice as good as the £300 Yokos.

Yokos are not great on the road but amazing on track in ALL conditions apart from lots of standing water.

In the wet, they still work well as long as you get decent temp into them.

Ive just bought Yokos for the Saxo and Ill be buying some 595 RSR's as the 2nd set as they're better than Yokos and 888's in the wet and pretty good on the road.

Thats my input!

adamskiTNR · 2nd February 2012, 21:50

But they are worth twice as much if you are on track for a while. ANY e marked tyre just overheats after any significant use. The slicks will be more durable if kept up to temperature

vtectransplant · 2nd February 2012, 22:01

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Originally Posted by adamskiTNR

But they are worth twice as much if you are on track for a while. ANY e marked tyre just overheats after any significant use. The slicks will be more durable if kept up to temperature

I disagree tfrom what I personally have experienced. Ive had A048's that have done well over 200 hard laps and been ok, not great, but ok.

The slicks that I have used 'go off' after half of that and my Dunlop actually failed on me....at over 100mph round Island Bend at OUlton. Not a very nice experience! lol

I personally dont think that the extra money is justified if you are only doing track days.

A whole manner of extra stresses and strains are put on your car when running slicks that a standard' ish road/track car cant handle without hiccups.

adamskiTNR · 2nd February 2012, 22:09

Oh i totally agree on the cost aspect, slicks are insanely costly to run. But running a properly chosen slick compound and using it as it was intended, so warming a hard endurance compound up gradually and not pushing it past it's limits doing qualy laps every lap then they really do last well. Not at their optimum, but the secondary compound will go on for a good while

Dave_P · 2nd February 2012, 22:14

Avon ACB10's are my road tyre of choice... if you need to run a road tyre?

jpsaxo · 4th February 2012, 10:02

You definitely need bigger bars, I didnt get any wheel spin with circa 160bhp and r888's. Also on the front I run 250lb springs with 22mm bars and I love the set up, not to hard for "hilly" tracks like cadwell & donnington with lots of undulation, which I know you do often