Saxo Problems & Queries If you're having problems with your Saxo and you're after a bit of advice, check this forum out... |
|
|
11th January 2012, 07:14
|
#1
|
L-plater
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Kettering
Posts: 82
Car(s): Saxo vts
|
Garage blew up my engine!
I bought some newman cams and new cam followers for my vts and got a local garage to fit them on Monday. Then they ring my yesterday and say when they fitted them and started it the engine blew up and broke the inlet manifold aswell. And there trying to blame the parts I bought but I've checked and there the right parts. Does anybody know what they could of done for it to do that? So when I go down there I can say what they might have done wrong. Thanks.
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 07:50
|
#2
|
Frequent Poster
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 761
Car(s): Astra VXR
S2 indigo rallye
|
My 2pence worth is the timing .
__________________
Rallye to Astra VXR
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 07:53
|
#3
|
Regular Poster
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wakefield
Posts: 395
Car(s): saxo vtr/vts 106 diesel
|
engine
My guess would be timing as well
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 07:56
|
#4
|
Infrequent Poster
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 246
Car(s): Saxo VTR 02 reg
Mitsubishi Evo 8
VW Passat
|
Legally though where does he stand?
I mean I know from personal experience to trade they must have insurance.
Is the garage to know or even check that the parts are correct before fitting? who is responsible?
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 07:56
|
#5
|
Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 8,210
Car(s): Golf TDI
|
Need more details on the term 'blown up'.....what are they saying is actually wrong with it?
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 07:57
|
#6
|
Regular Poster
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 330
|
got to be cam belt out
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 08:10
|
#7
|
L-plater
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Kettering
Posts: 82
Car(s): Saxo vts
|
They said the valves and inlet manifold are broke. The cambelt and followers where the right parts I went and checked last night. And it was a Newman cam.
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 08:57
|
#8
|
Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Stourbridge
Posts: 7,338
Car(s): Nissan 200sx S14a
|
Doesn't matter if the belt was the right part, sounds like they messed up the timing although I doubt this would "Blow up" the engine as such.
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 09:05
|
#9
|
Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,100
Car(s): Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
|
Also sounds like they didnt try to turn it over by hand first?!
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 09:38
|
#10
|
Saxperience Addict
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 11,709
Car(s): A4 SE/A6 Le Mans
|
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 09:44
|
#11
|
Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 31,278
Car(s): Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
|
Oh dear!
Did you at least tell them they werent normal cams? (just to be safe)
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffchiz
lol because you are a brand fag
|
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 11:28
|
#12
|
Established Member
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Derby
Posts: 1,021
Car(s): Posi saxo, flatty, Peugeot bipper, Vauxhall vectra
|
So whos paying to get the engine fixd/replaced? :o
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 11:56
|
#13
|
Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Stoke-on-trent
Posts: 2,640
Car(s): Mk5 Golf GTTDI
Mk2 VTR Project
|
Sorry but this did kinda make me lol! gotta be their fault though right?
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 12:22
|
#14
|
Regular Poster
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Belfast
Posts: 403
Car(s): Saxo 1.1 Eastcoast
|
sounds like timing was out
IMO They are at fault for not double checking everything was ok
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 12:43
|
#15
|
Regular Poster
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Ruthin North Wales
Posts: 308
Car(s): Saxo VTR, 205 CTI S16
|
That is a nightmare mate, like said above they should have turned it over by hand first, timing probs out or timing belt could have skipped teeth from not being tensioned correctly?
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 12:54
|
#16
|
Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 8,210
Car(s): Golf TDI
|
If it's fubared the valves then the timing is probably out.
Sounds like they ballsed it up and are trying to blame the parts you supplied.
I would only get something like aftermarket cams fitted but someone I know who had done them before, i.e one of the affiliates on here.
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 12:56
|
#17
|
L-plater
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Kettering
Posts: 82
Car(s): Saxo vts
|
Yeah they knew they wasn't normal cams. I don't know who's paying yet I've got to go down tonight to see them. Thanks for the helpful comments, now i know more about it.
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 12:59
|
#18
|
Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Little Mill, South Wales
Posts: 7,547
Car(s): Mondeo ST TDCI
Saxo VTS
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Savage23
Yeah they knew they wasn't normal cams. I don't know who's paying yet I've got to go down tonight to see them. Thanks for the helpful comments, now i know more about it.
|
I wouldn't accept blame if I was you, if you bought the parts new and the parts are to blame then its the manufacturers fault, if the parts were fine then its the garages fault, you took it to them because you needed someone professional who "knows what they are doing" to do it.
Fight it all the way mate
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Giraffe
I'm happy being a north easternly smoggie bender.
|
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 13:02
|
#19
|
Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 31,278
Car(s): Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
|
Garage wont want to fit the bill of a engine and however much them cams are.
Id press on till they do..
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffchiz
lol because you are a brand fag
|
|
|
|
11th January 2012, 13:11
|
#20
|
Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Morley, Leeds
Posts: 8,469
Car(s): Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH
|
Ring citizens advice tell them what happened and ask for a advice query number. If the garage continue to blame the parts. Say to them the parts were not a issue when you agreed to fit them for £----- amount.
Then from there citizens advice will tell you the direction to claim from the garage's public liability if they have it. If not then you will have to try and go through there insurance (very complicated).
A mechanic at my work fucked up a focus rs engine (about 6 months ago) when fitting a stainless manifold and cams from puma speed. He set the timing up wrong and started it up instead of rotating the crank by hand. Because he did this its his fault so we had to pay up for a new engine re- build.
__________________
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Bedford126 For This Useful Post:
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 10:46.
|