converting to coil and leads - Saxperience

blackie_2k5 · 22nd July 2014, 20:09

right im gonna convert to coil and leads on the xsi as the COP seems to be getting very hot and i wanna rule this out as a potential issue

should be able to run the 8v set up with no probs id have thought?

i know the ford zetec conversion is also pretty common

after some input??

chompy · 22nd July 2014, 21:02

There's a cracking discount on 106oc for an aftermarket setup. 10% off retail I think.

In terms of standard, fairly sure it's a straight swap. Never done it though

blackie_2k5 · 22nd July 2014, 21:26

cheers mate

think ill probs end up robbing the ford parts bin, should be able to get all i need for buttons.. just looking to see if theres anything i should know/better alternatives before i make my mind up

Gandi699 · 22nd July 2014, 21:33

Should be a straight swap. When I did it from 8v vtr to leads I lopped the coilpack plug off a jp4 loom from a c2, worked just fine and fit the pug 4 lead coilpack

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stevo67 · 22nd July 2014, 21:33

Seem to remember an aftermarket set up being mentioned a while ago on gmc's website.

DeekB · 22nd July 2014, 21:41

with the ford one you need the little plug that goes with it, Same as the MSD then wire the plug into the standard wires it doesnt plug straight in but cant se eit being that hard to do

blackie_2k5 · 22nd July 2014, 21:43

yeah ill make sure i grab a plug with whatever i go for

cheers lads

anyone know the pin outs for the wires?

DeekB · 22nd July 2014, 21:47

From Atspeeds website

For citroen/peugeot users: this is correct for MOST citroen/peugeot - use as guide only.
Ford Pin > Saxo Pin
Violet 1 > 1
Yellow 3 > 2
Red 2 > 3
UNUSED > 4X

http://atspeedracing.co.uk/products/...roducts_id=283

blackie_2k5 · 22nd July 2014, 22:03

nice one. make life alot easier that will

DeekB · 22nd July 2014, 22:06

Sure it will if it works, I need to do the same mate for my MSD coil I intend to fit,

I just need to get my finger out and stop being lazy lol

blackie_2k5 · 22nd July 2014, 22:07

ill find a ford pack and leads this week and bang them on before i send the ecu away

shame as they make the bay look messier then it already is lol

DeekB · 22nd July 2014, 22:14

that is true mate but sometimes needs must, As said I had the same problem as you and it didnt happen alot and I thought it was either an overheating fuel pump or coil pack

Just strange how it never done it when I had more than a half tank of fuel which made me think fuel pump, all these bits should be changed this time round so time will tell.

blackie_2k5 · 22nd July 2014, 22:18

well thats the way mine started.. then seems to have gotten worse.. see if i can get to the bottom of it

bang coil and leads on, put and inline fuel pump in to supplement the OE pump and then im 100% good to go

any issues will solely lie in the ecu then

djx11b · 23rd July 2014, 12:06

Done this recently on my build got the ford zetec coil pack and leads and cut the ends off all fitted on nicely and did find the car to feel better when driving after it.

I didn't have the ford coilpack 3 plug connector but you can get one of ebay for about £12.50 brand new (eBay item number:111137071962)

Fitting was easy found the 12v wire with a multimeter from original wiring and then connected the other two original wires in to the other new pins. I got it right first time but if it didn't fire would have just swapped these two over

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Good luck with it maybe helping out your issue

Ross^p · 23rd July 2014, 13:29

Well worth the effort. Mapping will give you longer dwell times on the coil - which the stock coil hates. Ford coilpack is a good option.

Of course, you could always do it properly...

chompy · 23rd July 2014, 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

Well worth the effort. Mapping will give you longer dwell times on the coil - which the stock coil hates. Ford coilpack is a good option.

Of course, you could always do it properly...

What the hell is that and where do i get one?

D4MJT · 23rd July 2014, 14:28

Ross probably has no idea, he'll have bought it, had it fitted, never seen it and sold the car

deano_123 · 23rd July 2014, 14:46

Mines a ford coil, big old heavy lump it is too

Ross^p · 23rd July 2014, 15:00

It's a Constella conversion - have a word with Rob and he'll fill you in. I've been specifically asked not to give details of it out because it's in testing but so far it's worked very well.

Alex^p · 23rd July 2014, 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

It's a Constella conversion - have a word with Rob and he'll fill you in. I've been specifically asked not to give details of it out because it's in testing but so far it's worked very well.

Can you say if its plug and play or not? ;-)
Curious to know if it needs a custom loom.