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7th April 2012, 18:47
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L-plater
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ashford kent
Posts: 36
Car(s): 2001 furio
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furio
hey people just after some ideas for my furio just wondering what i can do to add a bit more performance
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7th April 2012, 23:34
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Newbie
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Crawley, West sussex
Posts: 10
Car(s): 2002 Saxo VTS Black
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Normal stuff would be a decent induction kit, exhaust system ect.. it all depends how far you wanna go?
if cash isnt tight then you could look at an engine change?
i had a mate with a furio who removed most of the interior and it kept up with my old vtr.
Hope this helps
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8th April 2012, 01:46
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#3
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Regular Poster
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Wrexham, North Wales
Posts: 307
Car(s): Gold Saxo VTS & a Yellow S2000
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Every saxo needs to be lowered. You won't regret it providing the job get done properly.
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8th April 2012, 05:03
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#4
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 770
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What i found a good setup,
If its a single plug ECU, so change over year mainly W reg furios,
saxo silver top single plug Inlet manifold + throttle bodie ground down and polished throttle bodie, good induction kit with a good cold air feed a piper 4 into 1 manifold ( gives some awesome low down torque compaired to the racland 4 2 1 i had previouse
Vtr Blue injectors
fuel pressure regulator and a kam racing stainles decat full system with a 2 inch tip
1.1 gearbox solid engine mounts
Absolutly awesome setup on the furio, will beat VTRs till the 1.1 box struggles at around 80 will sit a little behind to 100 then vtrs gone lol! , would say all that would give you around 90bhp maybe a bit more, we shall see when i do a dyno run, also shell v power really is worth the extra pence, gives awesome gains with this setup and also ECO driving will see 60 - 70 miles on £10
Smaller wheels help with acceleration too
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8th April 2012, 22:44
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#5
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L-plater
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ashford kent
Posts: 36
Car(s): 2001 furio
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cheers guys , let my know what ya putting out on ya dyno run , cheers for the advise
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8th April 2012, 22:45
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#6
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L-plater
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ashford kent
Posts: 36
Car(s): 2001 furio
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oh btw mines a 2001 furio ?
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9th April 2012, 02:12
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 770
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iv never had chance to play with these 2001 3 plug ecu engined cars, because the newer style engines have differnt heads and what not, the VTR inlet wont fit that i used how ever im sure the VTR mk2 inlet may make some differnce! but like iv said never had a toy, the 3 pluggers have well restrictive cats / manifolds so get a decent straight through decat on to free some power!
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9th April 2012, 02:13
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#8
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 770
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and when i said 1.1 gearbox solid engine mounts i meant
a 1.1 gearbox and solid engine mounts, the 1.1 box is a awesome upgrade imo!
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9th April 2012, 08:34
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#9
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Infrequent Poster
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: N.Yorkshire
Posts: 115
Car(s): '00 black Saxo VTR
'00 Posi blue Furio
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By "throttle bodie ground down and polished" I guess you mean smoothing the inside of the ports?
Is it a straight swap otherwise?
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9th April 2012, 11:28
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#10
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Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: bucks
Posts: 1
Car(s): citroen saxo furio 1.4
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fit a new k&n induction kit and exhaust system with a 421 manifold then see how it goes
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9th April 2012, 11:32
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#11
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 15,289
Car(s): '04 VW Transporter.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by W343NNA
What i found a good setup,
If its a single plug ECU, so change over year mainly W reg furios,
saxo silver top single plug Inlet manifold + throttle bodie ground down and polished throttle bodie, good induction kit with a good cold air feed a piper 4 into 1 manifold ( gives some awesome low down torque compaired to the racland 4 2 1 i had previouse
Vtr Blue injectors
fuel pressure regulator and a kam racing stainles decat full system with a 2 inch tip
1.1 gearbox solid engine mounts
Absolutly awesome setup on the furio, will beat VTRs till the 1.1 box struggles at around 80 will sit a little behind to 100 then vtrs gone lol! , would say all that would give you around 90bhp maybe a bit more, we shall see when i do a dyno run, also shell v power really is worth the extra pence, gives awesome gains with this setup and also ECO driving will see 60 - 70 miles on £10
Smaller wheels help with acceleration too
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The 421 manfiold is better for a road setup, the 4-1 is only for peak power at the very top of the rev range.
Changing the injectors wont do anything other than over fuel the engine.
Solid engine mounts dont affect power.
K thanks bye.
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9th April 2012, 15:08
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#12
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L-plater
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ashford kent
Posts: 36
Car(s): 2001 furio
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cheers guys will see how it goes
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9th April 2012, 20:43
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#13
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,100
Car(s): Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
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cant see the mild cammed 1.4 from a furio making that power. It'll only be overfuelling with the bigger injectors. Saying that though the standard VTR gearbox is very long
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10th April 2012, 02:13
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 770
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MiniGibbo
The 421 manfiold is better for a road setup, the 4-1 is only for peak power at the very top of the rev range.
Changing the injectors wont do anything other than over fuel the engine.
Solid engine mounts dont affect power.
K thanks bye.
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Sorry mate jesus i was giving him ideas for his car, unlike you giving nothing,
And your theory might be proven on paper to you, But from experience of having both the piper wins hands down for me.. for a start its made much better, also it has larger diameter tubing and a better shape. the lads asking for more power out his car for a road setup, Wo modifes there car to perform lower down the rev range, if you wanting to use your cars power you dont eco drive.. it doesnt actualy make sence what uv said because if your on some back road using your car to the best of its potential then your not going to enter the twistys in 5th at 3k revs.. or even accelerating onto a duel carigway or overtaking, youd rop it down a gear so your revs are up there where the furios power generaly is thers no power before 4k
K thanks bye,
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10th April 2012, 02:15
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#15
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 770
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and as for over fueling with larger injectors, how is that possible, just because the injectors can run at a higher CC rating, doesnt mean that its going to sit over fueling, it just means there under less stress instead of maxing out furio injectors running them high
Ill take it next dyno day i get chance and wheel have a look see
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10th April 2012, 10:22
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#16
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,100
Car(s): Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
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its going to be flowing more fuel into each cylinder due to the larger size of injector but the same duration injector pulse/signal from the ECU. Unless its had a remap of course to alter this
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10th April 2012, 19:47
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 770
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But with the vtr inlet your letting in more air as furio thrttle bodie is alot smaller
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10th April 2012, 20:07
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#18
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L-plater
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Howden
Posts: 70
Car(s): Saxo VTS
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lets be honest, save for a bigger car
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11th April 2012, 10:05
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#19
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Infrequent Poster
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: leicester
Posts: 162
Car(s): Saxo furio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by llgsimpson
lets be honest, save for a bigger car
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cheaper to change the engine if done right
im thinking of doing it but dont have the money yet
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11th April 2012, 10:12
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#20
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 15,289
Car(s): '04 VW Transporter.
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W343nna, your points are helpful at all.
Best advice for this lad is do nothing to it and enjoy it, if he feels the ned to waste money by a backbox and are intake intake for some noise.
Its a 75hp 8v, its never going to be fast..
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