Routine in need of a change?

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Chris_O

Well that's exactly why i've come on here looking for advice, i'm not an expert by any means, therefore it's hard to know who to believe wouldn't you agree? But instead of just saying it's shit, why can't you add something constructive and tell me how to improve it. You might know your stuff, but the only way i'm going to learn is by gaining information off people like you. So I would geuninely be greatful if you could provide me with some decent info rather than just shun it down and say it's shit blah blah.

And to be fair, this sterotypical 'pump' in your chest and arms that everyone talks at the bar about, does not involve me, so I would rather you not just throw me in with these stereotypes.

Finally, dusher you seem so far up this lads arse it's not even funny.

Lol, I've seen Dusher argue with Dizzy before, far from the truth. Don't ask for advice then dismiss the answers... no point asking in the first place if you don't like criticism :\

[Chris_O]

Originally Posted by makaveli144

Right I have played about with your routine:

I have put a rep range rather than a set number or reps.You should push for more reps than previous on each week,when you reach the upper limit so 10 reps up the weight until you can do it again etc.

I have taken into account that you have limited equipment and if you need any more info I can explain what I have changed and why...but its a bit late to do that tonight.


SUNDAY - CHEST/TRICEPS

Chest
Bench Press - 1 warmup 2x6-8
Incline dumbbell press - 1 warmup 2x6-8
Flys - 2x8-10

Triceps
Skull crushers -1 Warmup 2x6-8
Tricep overhead press - 1 Warmup 2X6-8
Dips - Just do them to burn yourself out,unless you can do weighted dips


TUESDAY - BACK/BICEPS

Back
Bent over dumbell row (Arm close to body) - 1 warmup 2x6-8
Dumbell Pullover 1 warmup 2x6-8
Deadlift - 1 warmup 2x6-8

Biceps
Barbell Curl - 1 warmup 2x6-8
Concentration curls - 1 warmup 2x6-8

THURSDAY - SHOULDERS

Dumbell Overhead Press 1 warmup 2x6-8
Lateral raises - 1 warmup 2x8-10
Reverse Flys (Elbows out) 1 warmup 2x8-10
Dumbbell shrugs - 2X6-8

FRIDAY / SATURDAY - LEGS/ABS

Situps - 3x25
Another ab exercise whichever I fancy at the time!
Dumbbell squats - 1 Warmup 3x8-10
Standing dumbbell calf raises - 1 Warmup 3x8-10

Cheers for that mate, appreciate you taking the time to actually come up with some constructive help and different exercises and such like. I'll have a look at some videos of the exercises you've added to look at form etc.

Originally Posted by Dave_E30

Lol, I've seen Dusher argue with Dizzy before, far from the truth. Don't ask for advice then dismiss the answers... no point asking in the first place if you don't like criticism :\

Well in this instance it didn't seem far from the truth. How do you expect me not to dismiss answers if most of them are just 'it's a shit routine' etc. and not offer any from of constructive advice/ criticism? Especially as this Dizzy is supposed to be such an expert. For example Makaveli has actually tweaked the routine and added new exercises/ rep patterns. So I will deifnately take note of that. That is the sort of answer I was looking for.

[DusheR]

Originally Posted by Dave_E30

Lol, I've seen Dusher argue with Dizzy before, far from the truth. Don't ask for advice then dismiss the answers... no point asking in the first place if you don't like criticism :\

Ha yeh cheers pal, was going to try explain this but thought Id not waste my time.

Originally Posted by Chris_O

Well in this instance it didn't seem far from the truth. How do you expect me not to dismiss answers if most of them are just 'it's a shit routine' etc. and not offer any from of constructive advice/ criticism? Especially as this Dizzy is supposed to be such an expert. For example Makaveli has actually tweaked the routine and added new exercises/ rep patterns. So I will deifnately take note of that. That is the sort of answer I was looking for.

Im guessing you missed my post then? Click here to be made to look like a fool

[Chris_O]

Originally Posted by DusheR

Im guessing you missed my post then? Click here to be made to look like a fool

Obviously I saw your post, and haven't said a bad word about it, in fact I appreciated you taking the time to actually try and help out. So looks like you're the fool. I was mainly talking about Dizzy incase you hadn't noticed. And the only reason I said you seemed up his arse is because as soon as he piped up and started cussing it down, you suddenly started agreeing with everything he said. That's how it came across anyway. The joys of the internet aye.

[DusheR]

Originally Posted by Chris_O

Obviously I saw your post, and haven't said a bad word about it, in fact I appreciated you taking the time to actually try and help out. So looks like you're the fool. I was mainly talking about Dizzy incase you hadn't noticed. And the only reason I said you seemed up his arse is because as soon as he piped up and started cussing it down, you suddenly started agreeing with everything he said. That's how it came across anyway. The joys of the internet aye.

Ahhh you did? Just thought by your comments about no one giving constructive criticism that you must of missed it. I dont argue for the sake of arguing, if something is wrong, Ill say its wrong. The fact is Dizzy, although his way of putting things can come accross a bit harsh, was correct.

Thing about forums is you get all ranges of experience. You could of been training months for all we know, if so that routine wouldnt of been too bad. But with experience comes knowledge, and to be fair your training missed some of the basics.

Just try adding the exercises Ive said as see how you get on. Its all about trial and error anyways, somethings that will work for you now, might not work for you next year. Change it up and get massif innit.

[Chris_O]

Originally Posted by DusheR

Ahhh you did? Just thought by your comments about no one giving constructive criticism that you must of missed it. I dont argue for the sake of arguing, if something is wrong, Ill say its wrong. The fact is Dizzy, although his way of putting things can come accross a bit harsh, was correct.

Thing about forums is you get all ranges of experience. You could of been training months for all we know, if so that routine wouldnt of been too bad. But with experience comes knowledge, and to be fair your training missed some of the basics.

Just try adding the exercises Ive said as see how you get on. Its all about trial and error anyways, somethings that will work for you now, might not work for you next year. Change it up and get massif innit.

I didn't say no one gave any constructive criticism, some people did. But i'm not going to keep having petty arguments about this.

And I know full well my routine might have missed some of the basics, but as said countless times, I posted on here to get advice and change my routine to suit, not just look at pointless responses from 'experts' saying the routine is shit.

The only reason I quoted makaveli's post and mentioned I would try look in to doing what he suggested, is because he took note that I was performing this routine at home, and provided suitable exercises for this, not including exercises such as 'cable crossovers' etc.

Change it up and get massif innit, just lol.

[DusheR]

Originally Posted by Chris_O

I didn't say no one gave any constructive criticism, some people did. But i'm not going to keep having petty arguments about this.

And I know full well my routine might have missed some of the basics, but as said countless times, I posted on here to get advice and change my routine to suit, not just look at pointless responses from 'experts' saying the routine is shit.

The only reason I quoted makaveli's post and mentioned I would try look in to doing what he suggested, is because he took note that I was performing this routine at home, and provided suitable exercises for this, not including exercises such as 'cable crossovers' etc.

Change it up and get massif innit, just lol.

First of all, 10 out of 10 for your sense of humour. And cable crossovers are just like decline flys, use your brain for fuck sakes. Its not hard. If you knew what the basics are then you would have already have been doing them. Your attitude stinks, fuck wasting my time on you.

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by DusheR

First of all, 10 out of 10 for your sense of humour. And cable crossovers are just like decline flys, use your brain for fuck sakes. Its not hard. If you knew what the basics are then you would have already have been doing them. Your attitude stinks, fuck wasting my time on you.

Dude, waste your time on me please, I asked for your diet months ago and you kept saying yay but so far nay! PM me your diet! I want to get massif innit.

[DusheR]

Originally Posted by Dave_E30

Dude, waste your time on me please, I asked for your diet months ago and you kept saying yay but so far nay! PM me your diet! I want to get massif innit.

Ha sorry pal. I actually wrote it up and saved it on my laptop I think, Ill pm you with it asap.

[Chris_O]

Originally Posted by DusheR

First of all, 10 out of 10 for your sense of humour. And cable crossovers are just like decline flys, use your brain for fuck sakes. Its not hard. If you knew what the basics are then you would have already have been doing them. Your attitude stinks, fuck wasting my time on you.

All I know is that cable crossovers are done using a machine due to the word cable. I've never looked at any videos on machine exercises, therefore I didn't know they're just like decline flys and the name doesn't imply anything of the sort to someone who doesn't know, so no need to get so touchy about it. And you're the one saying my attitude stinks? Don't reply anymore in this thread then, simple.

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Chris_O

All I know is that cable crossovers are done using a machine due to the word cable. I've never looked at any videos on machine exercises, therefore I didn't know they're just like decline flys and the name doesn't imply anything of the sort to someone who doesn't know, so no need to get so touchy about it. And you're the one saying my attitude stinks? Don't reply anymore in this thread then, simple.

I'm not being funny mate, but how difficult is it to go on bodybuilding.com and read some of the stuff and educate yourself? Surely a forum like that is a better starting place than a car forum?

[Chris_O]

Originally Posted by Dave_E30

I'm not being funny mate, but how difficult is it to go on bodybuilding.com and read some of the stuff and educate yourself? Surely a forum like that is a better starting place than a car forum?

I'm not being funny mate, but as i've mentioned already in this thread i've joined uk muscle on a recommendation and browsed the site's stickies and various links for quite a while. I did infact look on bodybuilding.com as well. With that and looking at previous threads from this section, I formed this routine, which is very simlar to quite a few others I found, and thought I would post it here to see people's views, that is all!

Again, as i've stated previously, i'm no expert by any means so find it difficult who to believe, when a number of people you believe to be very clued up on the subject are telling you different things.

[makaveli144]

Whats with all the bitching boys?

Too much test flying around or something? lol