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9th March 2014, 20:14
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This sounds like a plan and not ott,I'll give that a try.
I was concerned about the wed run but I do have the weekend days to fall on,so wed could be a rest day.....
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Think if it were me, I would rather have the weekend to recover but it's your call. You wont need to do much else, pointless doing isolation exercise if you aren't looking for mass, it wont be functional for your running.
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10th March 2014, 07:52
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10th March 2014, 13:27
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Why don't you just train like a fighter would? I don't understand why you think your current routine would have much if any benefit if you have previous experience with boxing and weight training ?
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10th March 2014, 16:39
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Originally Posted by McGuire86
Why don't you just train like a fighter would? I don't understand why you think your current routine would have much if any benefit if you have previous experience with boxing and weight training ?
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You're right......
My left wrist is a but gubbed now which hinders my bag work,sparring etc.
I just fancy a wee change,I'll see how it goes....I'm going to start a 8wk running program to reduce my 5k times and I'll take it from there.
Cheers
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11th March 2014, 06:59
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So are you incorporating weights in or not?
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11th March 2014, 11:47
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Originally Posted by Giraffe
So are you incorporating weights in or not?
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I planned on doing it this week but I've decided to hold off until after ive finished the 8wk program.
Once that's done I'll try the program you mentioned and see how it goes.
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13th March 2014, 11:36
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Originally Posted by wullvfr
Thank god for that,I was worried I'd end up immobilised from having such huge muscles......wouldn't help much with the boxing mind you.
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Neither will skipping / shadow boxing twice a week but hey ho.... Are you a boxer? If you are please tell me you do actual training alongside the running/shadow boxing/ skipping?
Boxing and weights.... Not my forte as I have the opposite problem- Natural muscle and struggle to be leaner. But from my experience, you don't want to be doing them more than once or twice a week. Its strength not bulk you need so it would be a managable weight and high reps. Muscle Stamina. Squats, dead lifts, cleans, benches etc. Something thats overlooked a lot is body dips for arms and shoulder strength. As I said, not an expert but thats what we used.
My ultimate advice though- bag work / pad work/ sparring. You can cardio all you want with circuits and running, but ring fitness is another kettle of fish that can only be obtained by being in there and practicing.
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13th March 2014, 11:44
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Neither will skipping / shadow boxing twice a week but hey ho.... Are you a boxer? If you are please tell me you do actual training alongside the running/shadow boxing/ skipping?
Boxing and weights.... Not my forte as I have the opposite problem- Natural muscle and struggle to be leaner. But from my experience, you don't want to be doing them more than once or twice a week. Its strength not bulk you need so it would be a managable weight and high reps. Muscle Stamina. Squats, dead lifts, cleans, benches etc. Something thats overlooked a lot is body dips for arms and shoulder strength. As I said, not an expert but thats what we used.
My ultimate advice though- bag work / pad work/ sparring. You can cardio all you want with circuits and running, but ring fitness is another kettle of fish that can only be obtained by being in there and practicing.
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Originally Posted by wullvfr
You're right......
My left wrist is a but gubbed now which hinders my bag work,sparring etc.
I just fancy a wee change,I'll see how it goes....I'm going to start a 8wk running program to reduce my 5k times and I'll take it from there.
Cheers
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Also, strength is more low reps, heavy weight, high intensity... Endurance as you quite correctly said would be high reps, low weight, low intensity, but they aren't the same...
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13th March 2014, 14:54
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Also, strength is more low reps, heavy weight, high intensity... Endurance as you quite correctly said would be high reps, low weight, low intensity, but they aren't the same...
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Woops, as I said weights aren't my forte- but strength and endurance to me are the same, as its not how hard I can punch, but being able to maintain the same force continuously... hence why I came across wrong.
If I did much more weights than the minimum when I'm training I'd be like fucking popeye and I'd never have a chance of making weight.
Old achilies is still giving me jip so its light jogging for me just now. Can't wait to eventually go back to training but can't say working in payroll and HR with black eyes will be welcomed anymore tbh.
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13th March 2014, 16:54
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Originally Posted by jw1325
Neither will skipping / shadow boxing twice a week but hey ho.... Are you a boxer? If you are please tell me you do actual training alongside the running/shadow boxing/ skipping?
Boxing and weights.... Not my forte as I have the opposite problem- Natural muscle and struggle to be leaner. But from my experience, you don't want to be doing them more than once or twice a week. Its strength not bulk you need so it would be a managable weight and high reps. Muscle Stamina. Squats, dead lifts, cleans, benches etc. Something thats overlooked a lot is body dips for arms and shoulder strength. As I said, not an expert but thats what we used.
My ultimate advice though- bag work / pad work/ sparring. You can cardio all you want with circuits and running, but ring fitness is another kettle of fish that can only be obtained by being in there and practicing.
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Nah I don't box any more,I stopped after I broke my left wrist back in 2010.
I only know too well about ring fitness and the difference between that and other cardio.There was a guy who was as fit as a fiddle,could run all day long but when it came to sparring rounds he was fucked pretty quick.
I only do some boxing exercises to keep my skills half decent but I might go back one day,my main focus just now is getting as fit as I can with regards to running 5k's etc and doing high intensity stuff as its helping me lots.
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13th March 2014, 23:09
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This may or may not be of use, this is an outline of friends regieme leading up to a fight... he is in awesome shape (professional mma fighter)
If nothing else it may give comparison, it seems beneficial to stick to the main compound exercises, he is very strong but not carrying a great amount of mass...
He weighs over 70kg (fighting weight) but literally not an ounce of fat on him.
Monday
Morning
5 minutes max speed sprint
5 minutes max speed cycle
5 minutes max speed row
Squats
Pull ups
(30 minutes) bag work
Flexibility
Evening
2 hours Brazilian Jiu Jistsu class
Tuesday
Morning
Ruff House training session
Evening
2 hours Shootfighting class
Wednesday
Morning
5 miles bike
15k run
Hang clean and press
Pullups
(30 minutes) bag work
Evening
1 and a half hours Freestyle wrestling class
Thursday
Morning
Ruff House training session
Evening
1 and a half hours 1 to 1 session with coach
Friday
Morning
Interval training (20 seconds on 10 seconds off)
Flat 2 x 5 minutes
Hill 2 x 5 minutes
Dead lifts
Pullups
(30 minutes) bag work
Flexibility
Evening
Muay Thai Training
Saturday
2 hours Open mat
Sunday
2 hours Freestyle wrestling class or 1 hour quarter marathon run
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