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10th September 2011, 15:41
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^^^ fuck
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12th September 2011, 09:13
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perfect example of why you wouldn,t want a BIG turbo in a saxo .freewheels round the corners and its not front wheel drive ,can,t nail it till its straight --and a skyline at 3litres or more is hardly a saxo -runs like a bag of shite on idle gearbox alone would cost more than a whole saxo .
not really doing the turbo cause much good when nearly all the cars we are talking about will be full road cars and not pure track cars.
either the car is badly set-up or thats the worst driver i have ever seen "sawing at the steering wheel" in the corners
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12th September 2011, 11:54
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Shut up John 
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12th September 2011, 13:48
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Originally Posted by axsaxoman
perfect example of why you wouldn,t want a BIG turbo in a saxo .freewheels round the corners and its not front wheel drive ,can,t nail it till its straight --and a skyline at 3litres or more is hardly a saxo -runs like a bag of shite on idle gearbox alone would cost more than a whole saxo .
not really doing the turbo cause much good when nearly all the cars we are talking about will be full road cars and not pure track cars.
either the car is badly set-up or thats the worst driver i have ever seen "sawing at the steering wheel" in the corners
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A skyline at 3 litres or more? Where are you getting your facts from John? Its a rb28! Cant nail it to the straight.LOL videos make things look slow,have you ever seen a time attack skyline?
Sure they would make mince meat of your car!
Your just turning business away as some customers actually want turbo's over superchargers, but each to there own! Bit like when you wouldnt give the spec of your own camshafts when customers asked.
i guess colins is crap to with it being turbo?
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12th September 2011, 14:47
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No power seems to be able to be put down from the apex so its not fast on corners but its a missile on the straight. Thats the problem with that cars power delivery and chassis setup.
Last edited by KamRacing; 12th September 2011 at 14:50.
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12th September 2011, 15:05
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hows about we stop arguing about which is better and learn from this
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Originally Posted by sliderz
your car wipes mine out , any day . looking good
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lady charger ftw in this case
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12th September 2011, 15:10
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#147
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Twin chargers Yoooo
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12th September 2011, 15:12
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Originally Posted by mangojace
Twin chargers Yoooo
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2 chargers and 2 turbos, FTW
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your car wipes mine out , any day . looking good
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lady charger ftw in this case
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12th September 2011, 15:31
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2 chargers and 2 turbos, FTW
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That r35 is very underpowered for that though tbh lol!
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12th September 2011, 15:34
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yeh, i like it when i he says:
hai, yai chai, wahai mai chai nikkei
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12th September 2011, 15:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mangojace
A skyline at 3 litres or more? Where are you getting your facts from John? Its a rb28! Cant nail it to the straight.LOL videos make things look slow,have you ever seen a time attack skyline?
Sure they would make mince meat of your car!
Your just turning business away as some customers actually want turbo's over superchargers, but each to there own! Bit like when you wouldnt give the spec of your own camshafts when customers asked.
Atspeed 106 Turbo - Trax 2011 - YouTube i guess colins is crap to with it being turbo? |
what are the 2 cars that go past at 2:30?
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12th September 2011, 15:50
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Originally Posted by e8_pqck
what are the 2 cars that go past at 2:30?
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New GTR
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12th September 2011, 16:06
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Here you go axsaxoman...
this is a rolling road printout of my old low boost set up turbo vts. Completely standard intrernals and built for around half the cost of a supercharger setup. The car was very very predictable and I had NO ISSUES putting the power down at all, I could put my foot to the floor in 2nd and get no wheelspin due to the linear power delivery. It also returned 43mpg and didn't skip a beat the whole time I had it. I never once broke a driveshaft, or had traction issues. The turbo would spool from 1,500rpm and hold boost until 7,000rpm. This dyno printout was when it was on 9.5psi, I ran it for quite a while at 12-13psi still with no issues.
edit, as you can, this was dyno'd in may on quite a hot day and it was also the back end of a dyno session and iirc it was about the 15th car on the rollers so you can imagine the heat in the garage. Had I taken the car back on a nice cool day, no doubt I would have seen a few more ponies on the printout...
Last edited by maddison_vts; 12th September 2011 at 16:17.
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12th September 2011, 16:49
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#154
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was that with a decomp?
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12th September 2011, 17:00
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Originally Posted by e8_pqck
was that with a decomp?
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no, standard engine, 1.9mm head gasket, but still won't be far off the standard compression ratio
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12th September 2011, 17:05
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#156
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Fuckit, thats what i have - who can map a KMS in Leeds? Time to turn her up!
This is what i mean in my other thread - these bottom ends and pistons are pretty strong.
Ive been reading a few people running higher boost with no problems - if it goes bang a new engine is cheap as chips anyway..
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12th September 2011, 17:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by e8_pqck
Fuckit, thats what i have - who can map a KMS in Leeds? Time to turn her up!
This is what i mean in my other thread - these bottom ends and pistons are pretty strong.
Ive been reading a few people running higher boost with no problems - if it goes bang a new engine is cheap as chips anyway..
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to be honest, I put the reliability I had down to the mapper - sandy brown.
I can't recommend this guy enough. The car drove fantastic, it was reliable, I never had any issues with the work he did on it and I had the car on the dyno at alan jeffery enginetuner and they complemented how well set up it was which was quite a thing to say imo.
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12th September 2011, 17:53
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thats the thing with it, good mapping is key on these things
e8 long as you find some one who knows what theyre doing you should be fine, as said the engines are pence anyway
EDIT- maddison that is VERY linear for a turbo
but sandy is more used to N/A mapping isnt he?, so id guess this plays a part in the way he maps the power in ...?
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12th September 2011, 20:04
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#159
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WOW that is smooth!!!
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12th September 2011, 20:29
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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5
thats the thing with it, good mapping is key on these things
e8 long as you find some one who knows what theyre doing you should be fine, as said the engines are pence anyway
EDIT- maddison that is VERY linear for a turbo
but sandy is more used to N/A mapping isnt he?, so id guess this plays a part in the way he maps the power in ...? |
In Leeds, going to call AET tomorrowsee if they can fit me in before I take it to Cottesmore on the 23rd. Anyone used them? They built me a turbo for my GT-Four and did a great job.
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