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21st August 2007, 11:32
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amersham, Bucks
Posts: 33
Car(s): Saxo Furio 1.4i Mk2 2001
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Ideas on tires? Piiics!!!
Ive been urged not to go with the 195/40/16 tires for my saxo because they cause "apparently" geometery problems and incorrect speed readings?
Anybody got advice?
Pics of alloys with both the 40 and 45 profile would be muuch appreciated!!.
Thanks!!!
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21st August 2007, 11:38
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Scotland
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 9,556
Car(s): Saxo 1.6i 16v VTS, 2 Classic Minis
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The speedo already over reads your speed so fitting larger alloys (with larger tyres) will make your speedo more accurate.
A 195/40/16 tyre has almost the same rolling circumference as a 195/45/15 so it will be almost the same as having the standard VTS alloys. 195/45/16 will create a larger rolling circumference thus a more accurate speedo but you run the risk of them rubbing in the arches etc if the car is lowered.
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21st August 2007, 11:43
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amersham, Bucks
Posts: 33
Car(s): Saxo Furio 1.4i Mk2 2001
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Alrite then cheers mate, im only going to lower the car to fill the arches, ive been advised this wont rub, but if it does i guess ill just have to do some modifications to the arches.
Thanks for the help.
Pictures would still be great please ppeeople!!
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21st August 2007, 11:51
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Teesside
Posts: 8,800
Car(s): focus tdci, clio v6
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im down 60mm on 16s with 40 profiles, no scrubbing even with a full car,
the actual full wheel size is only very slightly bigger than 15's on 45 profiles. so id expect 195/45/16 to be even further out if your putting it like that
i wouldnt worry about it mate, it works out at about 10mph out at 100 mph so around a 1mph average of every 10mph. but its a lesser reading so it isnt exactly going to get you into trouble as youll be going slower than what the speedo says
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21st August 2007, 12:00
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amersham, Bucks
Posts: 33
Car(s): Saxo Furio 1.4i Mk2 2001
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Cheers for the help!!
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21st August 2007, 12:13
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Retford, Notts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dsh85
im down 60mm on 16s with 40 profiles, no scrubbing even with a full car,
the actual full wheel size is only very slightly bigger than 15's on 45 profiles. so id expect 195/45/16 to be even further out if your putting it like that
i wouldnt worry about it mate, it works out at about 10mph out at 100 mph so around a 1mph average of every 10mph. but its a lesser reading so it isnt exactly going to get you into trouble as youll be going slower than what the speedo says
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But the J/ET on your rear wheels may be different to the J/ET on the rear wheels of the the person thats asking.
So stating yours is fine, may not help everyone.
For example; Your 16" wheels could be 6.5J on the rear which is 6 and a half inch in diamiter which will sit nicely in the arch with 40 profile tyres. Now for my wheels, there 9J which is 9 inches and with a 40 profile tyre I'll be lucky if they don't rub. (Hope this makes sense)
I've noticed alot lately (not you danny) but people say this wheel size/tyre size is fine with 'X' amount of lowering etc. Nobody seems to take into consideration the J or ET of the wheels, which play a massive part in whether the wheels will fit/rub etc.
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21st August 2007, 12:20
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Teesside
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Car(s): focus tdci, clio v6
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way too much complex info for me there lol
i would have thought 195 width would be ok but 205 would be trouble
thats about as far as my knowledge goes tbh
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21st August 2007, 12:25
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dsh85
way too much complex info for me there lol
i would have thought 195 width would be ok but 205 would be trouble
thats about as far as my knowledge goes tbh
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Hehe, thats tyre sizes.
195 is the mm size of the tread of the tyre, not including the wheel. So for me to put 195 on my 9J I will get a stretched tyre. But for you to put them on you won't, because the wheel isn't as big in diameter. Now the tyre wall (40/45) profile is the percentege of the tread size, so a 40 profile tyre on say a 215 tyre will be bigger.
And just to help with Js;
|------| < 6J
|---------| <9J
Make sense? Lol.
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21st August 2007, 12:26
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Apr 2005
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yeh yeh i thoughts that wat you meant. i wasnt taking into account tyre stretching though you euro whore
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21st August 2007, 12:28
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dsh85
yeh yeh i thoughts that wat you meant. i wasnt taking into account tyre stretching though you euro whore
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Least I taught you something.
Tyre stretching is pr0!
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21st August 2007, 12:30
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Saxperience Post Whore
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ok ok to teach me something what does a J work out as in measurement
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21st August 2007, 12:31
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyjay
6.5J on the rear which is 6 and a half inch in diamiter
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J basicaly means Inch.
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21st August 2007, 12:33
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bristol
Posts: 2,784
Car(s): 8valve tbh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dsh85
ok ok to teach me something what does a J work out as in measurement
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i thought 1J = 1 inch
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21st August 2007, 12:35
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Saxperience Forum Bum
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C2 GT 1.6i | HID's | 4" magnex full system | boss hyper black 17" alloys | Kumho Rubber | Spax RSX coilovers | BMC & samco | GMC s/s manifold | ECU re-map by Angel Tuning |Brembo's 4 pots 305mm x 28mm|rear 20 groove discs| 125bhp / 123.7 lb ft @5761rpm | **FCS BEST C2 2008**
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21st August 2007, 14:09
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Saxperience Hardcore!
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Location: Ashford
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Car(s): LY R26
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jesus -__- Saxo forum not landrover..
your car needs lowering lol
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21st August 2007, 14:20
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Lincolnshire
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Car(s): 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S
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My tyres are 195/45 R16 and when they are ready to be changed i am getting 195/40 R16 and lower my car because they catch at the moment.
Heres some pics of my 195/45 tyres:
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21st August 2007, 14:34
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Saxperience Forum Bum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulless
jesus -__- Saxo forum not landrover..
your car needs lowering lol
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give us a chance only had it just over a month
work in progress mate
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C2 GT 1.6i | HID's | 4" magnex full system | boss hyper black 17" alloys | Kumho Rubber | Spax RSX coilovers | BMC & samco | GMC s/s manifold | ECU re-map by Angel Tuning |Brembo's 4 pots 305mm x 28mm|rear 20 groove discs| 125bhp / 123.7 lb ft @5761rpm | **FCS BEST C2 2008**
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21st August 2007, 17:50
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amersham, Bucks
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Car(s): Saxo Furio 1.4i Mk2 2001
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haha nice superT's thats the exact combo im gettin superT's on 195/40/16 continentals!!!!
How much did you pay for the wheel and tire package?
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