My paxo turbo - Page 7 - Saxperience

gti180craig · 10th April 2017, 22:25

The intercooler is a toyosports one I've ran them on few turbo cars I've owned and never had any issues the proof will be on mapping day as to what kind of results it produces like I said I'm not chasing numbers or looking for huge power just a fun useable car is what I'm aiming for

sri_130 · 11th April 2017, 13:33

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2 PSI drop? At what boost? How crap could the core possibly be? A wide, dual-pass with not enough core tube area might cause that much drop maybe... A single pass on like that would have to be terrible to be that bad.
The only issue I see with the intercooler is what affect it will have on the airflow to the main radiator. It may not be the finest design if it's a Chinese crap one off flea-bay, going with an OE 'cooler off something else isn't usually a bad idea because they tend to be quite efficient.

Was 8psi, dropped to 6.
Turbo is on my garage floor now and is mint. Looking to resell it shortly tbf.

Manually adjusted the boost back up, but couldn't get it right, it would spike badly above 8 after the increased lag and then it would cut, everyone would hit the windscreen!

It was you who mapped it Wayne, is there overboost/cut protection or something that cuts the spark?

Reverted all back to the twin pass in the end. Anyway, it was just a series of comments trying to protect from disappointment, but the OP knows what he is doing, so hopefully it was a one off or something.

gti180craig · 11th April 2017, 18:01

I think I know what I'm doing hahahaha it's all trial and error haha

Chipwizards · 14th April 2017, 21:47

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It was you who mapped it Wayne, is there overboost/cut protection or something that cuts the spark?

Probably, which car was it?

sri_130 · 19th April 2017, 12:18

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Probably, which car was it?

Crabzy's old Wicked red VTS. RickyP put it together many years ago.

Chipwizards · 20th April 2017, 07:15

From memory it ran about 0.55-0.6 bar. I think the pressure axis on the maps went up to 1650mbar (absolute), so 0.65 bar gauge. I can have a look when I get five, as if I ever get five...
It was an experimental thing from memory.

sri_130 · 20th April 2017, 10:48

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From memory it ran about 0.55-0.6 bar. I think the pressure axis on the maps went up to 1650mbar (absolute), so 0.65 bar gauge. I can have a look when I get five, as if I ever get five...
It was an experimental thing from memory.

no point, as you'll be mapping it again anyway (anywayne).

Back to the thread....

...anymore parts?!

axsaxoman · 20th April 2017, 11:50

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Tried it. 2 psi drop and awful lag

twas a sad day.
It looked nice and shiny like Craig's as well.
The pipe run on them is twice the length of a small twin pass too. Its not got the lungs for it.

Takes away the responsiveness/n.a feel of the 17 but I hope not the same for this. Fingers crossed.

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sorry you are wrong
first kits we made were a twin pass due easy of plumbing --no problem at all till we tried to get stupid power -- then the twin pass did cause a restriction -solution make same core single pass --problem went away .
a big core will not cause pressure drop as the air can flow easy through it .with twin pass you basically have a very thin cooler twice as long --thats where the restriction comes from -,but we only had a problem once we were trying to run 300+bhp through the twin pass +with a s/c --so no possiblity of boost being raised by waste gate control like a turbo --what you got with s/c is what you got .
quite sure if it had been turbo would never have noticed it as quick ,as long as the turbo had more pressure to give -
-but no, by choice presuming no fitment issues -single pass and good core

never had an engine cooling prob caused by intercooler blocking rad due to low temps of the s/c compared to turbo,and of course we change the rad as well
only engine temp problems have been internal -basically due to limits of the block when going stupid power
not enough cooling between cylinders -but thats at 400ish continuos power --

sri_130 · 20th April 2017, 13:01

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sorry you are wrong

Unfortunately there were 2 other chaps in attendance to verify my evidence. Including one who runs a 250bhp turbo rallye with a twin pass also mapped by Wayne.

gti180craig · 21st April 2017, 15:05

Well that turned into quite a debate about Intercooler's lol I ran the intercooler in place for a week to see if the temp was affected but all is fine doesn't seem to effect the rad at all it might run warmer when the turbo is on but will just wait and see

Got all this today

Oil and standard filter and a r5 turbo small oil filter , new thermostat , gates cambelt kit and water pump headgasket set with head bolts , coolant and thanks for a heads up from noirsette bm baker had a offer on their short shift kit and gear linkages so purchased that aswell.

Will be getting the headwork done in a couple of weeks and gonna get the clutch ordered and fitted should all be pretty much ready to make a start then

Thanks for looking

gti180craig · 22nd April 2017, 14:12

Today's post some more vac line and and jubilee clips I could open a jubilee clip shop with the amount of jubilee clips I now have haha

gti180craig · 30th April 2017, 20:22

Well got my short shift kit fitted today huge improvement excuse my squeaky shifter haha

https://youtu.be/VDjqzJ5M7GE

gti180craig · 8th May 2017, 10:31

Well the latest is the car is booked in next week to have the hg and cambelt all fitted I ordered my clutch Friday so hopefully should be here this week and will get it on the weekend the weather was nice yesterday so went for a drive and took a couple of pics

Thanks for looking

adam_baker · 8th May 2017, 14:51

Looking good buddy

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gti180craig · 8th May 2017, 15:45

Cheers pal

any news with yours??

adam_baker · 8th May 2017, 16:08

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Cheers pal

any news with yours??

Just gonna do some re wiring tomorrow and re locate the window switches, on the look out for some buckets and a exhaust

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gti180craig · 8th May 2017, 17:39

Nice mate

gti180craig · 12th May 2017, 15:48

Got my clutch today gonna throw it on over the weekend should be interesting lol

adam_baker · 13th May 2017, 10:44

Good luck today mate, hope it goes smooth, we will need to meet up once your turbo is all fitted, I'm gonna need some pointers

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gti180craig · 14th May 2017, 16:07

Well!! What a bloody weekend doing the clutch was a headache but managed to get it done was having allingment issues but managed to wiggle it into place as u can see my old clutch was toast the release bearings appears to have been wearing on the pressure plate overall I'm happy clutch feels just like standard which was a suprise considering it's stage 2 anyway here are some pics

Thanks for looking the car is going in tomorrow to have the headgasket and cambelt fitting then next weekend I will be making a start on fitting all the parts