Tappity Tappity Tap - Saxperience

baronvontinkle · 20th February 2007, 16:19

Right instead of asking what the tapping noise is i know its my tappets. Searched the threads and found this:

adjusting the tapets is easy so get outside and do it yourself, put the car in 3rd gear and jack the car up on one side at the front, then remove the rocker cover and spark plugs so u dont have to work against the compression. next turn the front wheel thats raised off the floor in a forward direction to turn the engine over to the correct position and adjust the valves to the following specs using a feeler gauge:

valve clearances are- 0.20mm for all the inlet valves and 0.40mm for the exhaust valves

No.1 exaust valve fully open - adjust No.3 inlet and No.4 exhaust.

No.3 exhaust vale fully open - adjust No4 inlet and No2 exhaust.

No4 exhaust open- adjust No2 inlet and No1 exhaust.

No2 exhaust open - adjust No1 inlet and No3 exhaust.

Is this correct? Just checking you see before i start taking things apart.

Also is it easy to do? I have all the tools and moderate knowledge and a brother with more knowledge

Cheers

stevenet15 · 20th February 2007, 17:08

yeah its fairly strihgt forward for a bigginer, i beileive thats the info that i posted up for someone else in a different threat

baronvontinkle · 20th February 2007, 17:10

It is indeed. Is this cold or warm by the way?

chrisni1986 · 20th February 2007, 18:19

fine for a vtr but you cant adjust vts ones sure ya cant?

stevenet15 · 20th February 2007, 19:14

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Originally Posted by baronvontinkle

It is indeed. Is this cold or warm by the way?

they should only be checked and adjusted when the engine is cold

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisni1986

fine for a vtr but you cant adjust vts ones sure ya cant?

nope u cant adjust a vts as they have hydraulic tappets which automaticly adjust the valve clearences

Saxo_Steve · 20th February 2007, 22:54

I am going to be thick here and ask what adjusting the tappets actually does?

Awretham · 20th February 2007, 23:25

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valve clearances are- 0.20mm for all the inlet valves and 0.40mm for the exhaust valves

Don't use those values, you want to set the tappets when the engine is warm! and set them to - 0.20 inlet and 0.3 exhaust

I can't be bother to argue with anyone that thinks different; so speak to GMC and they'll confirm this.

baronvontinkle · 21st February 2007, 16:04

lol. now i'm confused.

I had somebody do it for me (mechanic/friend of the family) and as far as i know he only did it cold. What clearances i dont know but it still taps.

Then decided to do it myself and save a few squid

I'll try the cold way then if it still makes a noise try the warm way

\-<

Chris_Ward_vtr · 22nd February 2007, 19:22

im trying this tonihgt because a cowboy dne them for me and now my cars misfiring like f**k and stallin, Ill let ya know how it goes.

baronvontinkle · 22nd February 2007, 20:23

Cheers mate. Yeah deff let me know how it goes

Chris_Ward_vtr · 22nd February 2007, 23:25

Done them and they were really easy to do, No tapping but it is still misfiring so im gessin somethin else is wrong, a mate had a look and he said it sounds like im gettin to much air through?

baronvontinkle · 24th February 2007, 13:54

Right. This is gonna make me look like a dunce but i took the rocket cover off. spark plugs out no probs. When i looked into the engine i only had one problem.

What the hell does a tappit look like???

Instead of just adjusting anything i put the car back together (thankfully worked after) but whilst i was doing that noticed something weird about the sound it was making. Its more popping than tapping and its coming from something on the car which i think is an injector.

I've posted a video of what i'm on about. It seems to be coming from that blue thing

Thanks for any help people

http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u...t=MOV00562.flv

jablitt · 9th April 2007, 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by baronvontinkle

Right. This is gonna make me look like a dunce but i took the rocket cover off. spark plugs out no probs. When i looked into the engine i only had one problem.

What the hell does a tappit look like???

Instead of just adjusting anything i put the car back together (thankfully worked after) but whilst i was doing that noticed something weird about the sound it was making. Its more popping than tapping and its coming from something on the car which i think is an injector.

I've posted a video of what i'm on about. It seems to be coming from that blue thing

Thanks for any help people

http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u...t=MOV00562.flv

have you found out what that weird popping noise was? mines doing that but not as loud. cheers.

Banger_VTR · 17th July 2007, 23:28

sorry to bump this back up but does anyone have any idea what that noise is, mines doin it and im doin me nut in trying to find what it is

Jay_uk · 17th July 2007, 23:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by baronvontinkle

Right. This is gonna make me look like a dunce but i took the rocket cover off. spark plugs out no probs. When i looked into the engine i only had one problem.

What the hell does a tappit look like???

Instead of just adjusting anything i put the car back together (thankfully worked after) but whilst i was doing that noticed something weird about the sound it was making. Its more popping than tapping and its coming from something on the car which i think is an injector.

I've posted a video of what i'm on about. It seems to be coming from that blue thing

Thanks for any help people

http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u...t=MOV00562.flv

A tappet is like a piece of metal shaped like a checker ( you know the game checkers) it basically small cylinder which fills with oil and sit under each lobe of the camshaft, 8 tappets for a VTR 16 for a VTS obviously as you have a camshaft for both inlet and exhaust

Prickle^p · 11th September 2008, 13:47

pictures tbh as im curious

dan-evo-6 · 4th October 2008, 20:06

this will work the same as if number 1 cylinder is on the rock between inlet and exhaust then adjust number 4 cylinder!!!

Drago · 4th October 2008, 22:09

Buy yourself a haynes manual.
Dont go adjusting things you arent sure about.
Be very careful that you dont overtighten the tappet nuts either.
If one snaps thats a head off jobby=££££££

DangerousD · 5th October 2008, 12:09

so does anyone know for sure what the clearances are? ive got mine totally in bits right now, head gasket went yesterday so i might as well set them at the same time. i cant believe everyone rips french cars when they are so easy to work on!!!

Sparco_Tom · 6th October 2008, 11:39

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Originally Posted by DangerousD

so does anyone know for sure what the clearances are? ive got mine totally in bits right now, head gasket went yesterday so i might as well set them at the same time. i cant believe everyone rips french cars when they are so easy to work on!!!

yes the information provided in the first post is correct or atleast its what shitroen told me also says the same in the haynes manual