TB's vs Turbo - Page 4 - Saxperience

Ryan^p · 7th September 2007, 15:40

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Originally Posted by Soulless

is vtr130 still on the same 40mm beasts?
or has he changed them with this new build?

I dont really understand it all, I just like to see how they go

lol

as far as imaware hes sticking with the same jenvey units

rushy_23 · 7th September 2007, 15:40

They are both sexy as hell sorry man. But the blue one wins sitting on the
182 Trophy style rims.

Ive been told that if the trumpets are left open, then debris that enter
the trumpets can damage the valves and shite! Heard horror stories of
meshed trumpets sucking the mesh into the engine!
So if anyone fits TBs, an air box is soo need if thats the case.

Karl · 7th September 2007, 15:41

Ryan, lets cut to the chase,
who's car will be faster...vtr130's or yours.

Ryan^p · 7th September 2007, 15:41

mk2s do look better, but i dont mind the mk1, id happily drive one.

unlike a mk1 saxo lol

leeroybrown · 7th September 2007, 15:42

Should be ok with a air filter on though

Something like a pipercross p600 thingy

Karl · 7th September 2007, 15:43

So your saying the mk1 is dog ugly now Ryan?

Ryan^p · 7th September 2007, 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulless

Ryan, lets cut to the chase,
who's car will be faster...vtr130's or yours.

due to the fact im not spending several K on a rebuild his will be. im happy with 157.2bhp

although dont know what hes gonna drive like round corners

Ryan^p · 7th September 2007, 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulless

So your saying the mk1 is dog ugly now Ryan?

mk1 sax yes

Karl · 7th September 2007, 15:45

157.2 bhp?
what cams are you using,
dont people normally get around that kinda power from 708s and a map
(obviously with breathing mods)

...still jealous though, im prob at 120bhp if im lucky.

leeroybrown · 7th September 2007, 15:46

Very mild cams i think

Not much higher left then the standard ones

Ryan^p · 7th September 2007, 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by rushy_23

They are both sexy as hell sorry man. But the blue one wins sitting on the
182 Trophy style rims.

Ive been told that if the trumpets are left open, then debris that enter
the trumpets can damage the valves and shite! Heard horror stories of
meshed trumpets sucking the mesh into the engine!
So if anyone fits TBs, an air box is soo need if thats the case.

only things you need to worry about are stones and shite.

most stuff it it gets to the inlet valve will combust.

ive known tons of peopole who dont run filters or airboxes and nthe engines have been fine, im just doing it for added security as i cant afford a rebuild if a stone does get in there.

the mesh wont be sucked in it will usually be burned on over run tbh. unless you use mesh that doesnt burn lol

rushy_23 · 7th September 2007, 15:48

what cams are these then?

Its a story I was told by my local Pug tuner, one of the competetion cars they
built got wrecked cause the guy tried to DIY mesh around the bodies. Funny stuff.

Ryan^p · 7th September 2007, 15:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeroybrown

Very mild cams i think

Not much higher left then the standard ones

106 cup cams, very mild indeed, but the way it produces the power should be nice, it seemed respectable in fmps car.

if i feel i need more ill just go for wilder cams, although i dont think the extra 4-5bhp is important tbh, id rather put the money into suspension.

Ryan^p · 7th September 2007, 15:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulless

157.2 bhp?
what cams are you using,
dont people normally get around that kinda power from 708s and a map
(obviously with breathing mods)

...still jealous though, im prob at 120bhp if im lucky.

TBs dont give HUGE power, its the way the throttle changes.

leeroybrown · 7th September 2007, 15:51

more responsive and noise

Thats what you want tbh

Ryan^p · 7th September 2007, 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeroybrown

more responsive and noise

Thats what you want tbh

yes better response, and noise aswell as theorettically better midrange.

ultimately ill be selling this all off and fitting DTH and some better cams for 180-190 bhp, i just cant justify it atm with uni coming up

leeroybrown · 7th September 2007, 15:55

tb'd a clio Ryan

At least the inlet is on the front, better rammage of air

Ryan^p · 7th September 2007, 15:57

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Originally Posted by leeroybrown

tb'd a clio Ryan

At least the inlet is on the front, better rammage of air

well not just better ram, but less issues of getting cold air into the inlet valve for combustion.

i plan to do a tbd clio at some stage lol.

i just love my french hatchbacks, no jc here

leeroybrown · 7th September 2007, 15:58

Pmsl

Ryan^p · 7th September 2007, 16:03

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Originally Posted by leeroybrown

Pmsl

think 230bhp is the most ive seen from a TB'd clio. and theres a fuck load of weight that can come out of them.

although id prob keep the thing stock in that sense and just have lots of shits and giggles