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24th November 2007, 02:39
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I can tell you really want bodies, do you want me 2 speak to true tec for you see if i can get a better price??
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24th November 2007, 05:46
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#42
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: West Mids
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Car(s): '98 EK9 N1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vtr130
I can tell you really want bodies, do you want me 2 speak to true tec for you see if i can get a better price??
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It will get done eventually mate, but its just so much easier if I get in done in
2 parts. Can do, what is their quality of work like and location?
DD are literally 5 mins away from my house.
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24th November 2007, 10:17
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#43
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If you absolutely HAVE to get this work done in 2 sittings, then i would advise:
Complete standalone ECU installation
iTBs
Fast road cams - 708s probably being the best choice
Aftermarket exhuast manifold
Get it mapped
I think you have a de-cat exhaust already right? That's it then...
Phase 2 could then consist of:
Flowed, ported, big valve cylinder head
New valve springs (Slightly stronger ones if they exist?)
Get it mapped / tweaked
And that's that I think. What do you think?
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Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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24th November 2007, 16:33
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#44
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: West Mids
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Car(s): '98 EK9 N1
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Originally Posted by Toad
If you absolutely HAVE to get this work done in 2 sittings, then i would advise:
Complete standalone ECU installation
iTBs
Fast road cams - 708s probably being the best choice
Aftermarket exhuast manifold
Get it mapped
I think you have a de-cat exhaust already right? That's it then...
Phase 2 could then consist of:
Flowed, ported, big valve cylinder head
New valve springs (Slightly stronger ones if they exist?)
Get it mapped / tweaked
And that's that I think. What do you think?
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In an idea world mate that would be perfect. But Im moving out as soon as
next week at this rate. I want to see what the bodies will be like alone. Plus
that way Im at a good point where I can walk in 1 year later and say right,
get some cams in and get the headwork done.
Manifold would go on with the bodies (collecting the manifold soon). Yup tis
decatted. See if I just fit cams in I will need an induction kit most likely which
I cant be arsed with if I will be getting rid later on.
I know is sounds daft. But Im just gonna try it and see...
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24th November 2007, 17:05
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#45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rushy_23
It will get done eventually mate, but its just so much easier if I get in done in
2 parts. Can do, what is their quality of work like and location?
DD are literally 5 mins away from my house.
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Well they built my engine and they are cheap mate, i will give them a ring on monday and see what they say 
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25th November 2007, 22:33
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#46
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Sorry bud, but the performance camshafts are a key element in the setup here. Without them, there's really very little point in doing the work. Why don't you wait until you have enough money? What's the rush Rush? 
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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7th January 2008, 23:34
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#47
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West Midlands
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Nuneaton (West Mids)
Posts: 13,835
Car(s): '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
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ANy more info and prices that anyone has?
Ive been thinking about an Omex ECU but im proper limited. Cant afford to pay more than £800 for ECU and mapping which is a b*llock ache, but thats my limit no matter how long anyone might say to save some more.
For me to save any more than that it would be another year before i could get the engine fitted.
As much help and advice needed please
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7th January 2008, 23:41
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Car(s): pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
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megasquirt?
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7th January 2008, 23:46
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#49
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West Midlands
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Nuneaton (West Mids)
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Car(s): '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
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megasquirt?
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Come again? 
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7th January 2008, 23:48
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#50
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Saxperience Post Whore
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Car(s): pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
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you thought about using a megasquirt ecu?
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7th January 2008, 23:48
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#51
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: northumberland
Posts: 7,693
Car(s): pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
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7th January 2008, 23:54
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#52
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West Midlands
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Nuneaton (West Mids)
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Car(s): '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
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Cheers for the link williams, however all this technical malarky is well out of my range of knowledge/understanding, been reading up on bits and bobs for ages and sill sees like gobble-de-gook 
In an ideal world plug in and play would be great, never that easy though.
Its a single plug engine/loom aswel so as i understand this ECU business should be much easier with that rather than the 3 plug scenario
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7th January 2008, 23:56
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#53
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Saxperience Post Whore
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well, megasquirts ou build and map yourself  proper DIY modding. there are some people that will build and map them for you though. very cheap aswell.
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8th January 2008, 00:04
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#54
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West Midlands
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Nuneaton (West Mids)
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Car(s): '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
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Scary thought, me and electrics have never mixed to date. i will look into it though.
Im more of a hands on, get greasy and gimme a spanner type of modder usually
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8th January 2008, 00:58
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#55
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I'm going KMS for everything Willsy.
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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8th January 2008, 01:00
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#56
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West Midlands
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Nuneaton (West Mids)
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Car(s): '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
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What quotes have you had for KMS Toad and where abouts? Im not fussed in the slightest about the wideband display so basic ECU and mapping is/would be sufficient
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8th January 2008, 12:06
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#57
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Location: Southampton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by samcook
bit of a thread aimed for mainly toad and rushy or anyone looking into omex!
Been speaking with des developments about fitting the omex to my car and the price is this
ecu = £846
fitting = £317
mapping = £212
all of those prices include the VAT.
also asked him about the dash dials and apprently hes never had any issues with them and cant see why there would be a problem
hope this helps
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8th January 2008, 12:46
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#58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willsy
What quotes have you had for KMS Toad and where abouts? Im not fussed in the slightest about the wideband display so basic ECU and mapping is/would be sufficient
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I'll have to take a look through some old Emails mate. QEP offer the KMS package at exactly the same price as GMC. I haven't had an exact quote from GMC about how much the installation and mapping would be.
IIRC, the quote for all the KMS parts to carry our the TB conversion, which includes: DTH TBs, air horns, linkages, KMS ECU and Wideband display, TPS, loom, and bigger injectors, came to £2000 after VAT.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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8th January 2008, 13:17
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#59
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Location: Southampton
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Originally Posted by williamsvts
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Excellent ECU's
We use these
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8th January 2008, 13:27
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#60
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Scotland
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 9,556
Car(s): Saxo 1.6i 16v VTS, 2 Classic Minis
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Nice to see this threads still going, im still about 80% convinced to go with standalone & my bonus will be arriving any day now 
Someone was selling a full KMS kit on SSC for £750 i think Toad, think they were selling iTBs too. Sybez has put his quaiffe box up for sale too... decisions decisions 
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