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14th December 2006, 04:06
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#61
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: west sussex
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Car(s): mk2 vts
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Originally Posted by boz
i had the same few ADS,
i wasnt sure if it was safe?
i went to shitreon, got a new lock key and had the ignition lock coded and new barrel fitted. this wasnt cheap. i fitted the rest of the locks myself. lol
worked a treat and no probs since
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i have to say bud i was shitting it , but all good (touched wood) for now , will be interested to see what its like on a long term basis , i found shitreon to cancel my car going in and explained to them what i had done , they said its what they would have tried first , if that didnt work then they would of had to replace all the locks etc , to do the wireing alone they wanted 50quid my machanic done if for me for a tenner so i was quite releaved to say the least
once again good guide 
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16th December 2006, 14:55
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#62
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Swindon
Posts: 1
Car(s): Citroen Saxo West Coast VTR 1999
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This is wot I found.....
Bought a 99 Westcoast VTR about 3-4 months ago. Everything was fine until a few days ago, i got in my car for work and found i had no PAS and blowers. Checked this forum for any other experiences, found this great page and found a solution. Went out side to look this thing over, to find mine had already been done before now....  But... this is wot i did find......someone had put in a in-line fuse between the connection of the 2 brown wires and it melt the fuse and it's holder, causing it to fall apart ( losing my PAS and blowers). It appear it was a 30amp fuse and was too strong to break the circuit.... Was thinking of installing a new in-line fuse holder and trying a smaller fuse like a 20a or 25a. So at least it wont overheat and cause melting.
Does anyone else support the idea to put an in-line fuse between the connection of the brown wires?? I find this a more safe and efficent way of making this 'By Pass' work.
Got a pic of damage caused, not sure how to upload it. Can anyone Help 
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16th December 2006, 17:23
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#63
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: SOUTHEND United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 1,300
Car(s): VTS all the way baby.
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Mate you do not need an inline fuse. I had this problem and fixed it. By joining a bit of wire, all you are doing is missing out the ignition barrel and completing the circuit. Loose the fuse buddy and you just need a bit of wire. If it melted a 30amp fuse, what will it do to a lower one then????? Exactly the same most probably but quicker.
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10th February 2007, 15:53
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#64
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Westcliff on sea
Posts: 3
Car(s): Saxo Furio 1.4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Topbombingkid
Ok if all three of the above have stopped working this is what you do.
Remove the steering column cover (held on by 2 torx) and under the steering column is a light brown plastic connector with 2 red wires going in the right side and 2 brown wires coming out the left side.
Cut the 2 brown wires and join them together. Make sure you solder the wires or use a proper crimp connector and make sure u use insulation tape to cover it. and tape up the 2 lose ends of the brown wires.
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I've just finished carrying out the above mod which has successfully caused everything to work as advertised, so owe you much thanks - pending any future flat batts or molten ignition barrels! 
A couple of details that might help others:
The cover requires a T15 torx bit.
The light brown plastic connector comes away from the column by sliding to the right.
Cheers TBK 
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3rd March 2007, 15:13
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#65
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L-plater
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Leicester
Posts: 83
Car(s): 1999 Saxo Vtr posi blue
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well ive tried and it still dosent work 
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4th April 2007, 01:04
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#66
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: coventry
Posts: 244
Car(s): White Mk1 Saxo Vtr
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ive lost my blowers and pas.. found out if i used a a fuse instead of a a it would work for a bit then blow.. seems to work when i put a new fuse in until i hit a bump in the road then it blows the fuse.. might try this mod with a new fuse and see
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28th May 2007, 22:19
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#67
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Swansea
Posts: 387
Car(s): Mk1 Saxo X 1.1i
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hi i recently bought a saxo and the heater and the de misters dont work and is there a way to check if i have power steering because it might just be broken i realise that this might be the mother of all stupid questions but i really do not know the first thing about cars so please go easy on me
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28th May 2007, 22:52
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#68
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Swansea
Posts: 387
Car(s): Mk1 Saxo X 1.1i
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lol soz i do not have power steering
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28th May 2007, 22:52
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#69
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Swansea
Posts: 387
Car(s): Mk1 Saxo X 1.1i
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so will this mod work for me then
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14th June 2007, 15:37
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#70
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Essex
Posts: 464
Car(s): Zetec S
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I just had this problem, but just connected the wires and it worked straight away, not sure if it will damage the wiring loom or not as the battery is constantly sending powering through the wires. whats the longest someone has had this method left for without problems? I am worried about it catching fire.
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2nd August 2007, 01:40
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#71
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,136
Car(s): saxo vts 2003
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erm where is the fuse for the PAS?
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24th October 2007, 02:09
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#72
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: tyrone - norn iron
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this is a fucking legend thread! just saved me a few quid mate, repped  citroen told me i needed new ignition, robbing cunts lol
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30th October 2007, 14:06
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#73
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Newbie
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3
Car(s): Saxo VTR
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I have all 3 problems, so took steering column cover off and found the 2 red wires but no brown wires connected to them? Where could they be?
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8th November 2007, 20:47
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#74
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Newbie
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1
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heater fan not working
check the plug connector to the fan. to find this, look up from the excelerator pedal. Mine was corroded and needed cleaning, All now works!
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8th November 2007, 21:15
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#75
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L-plater
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: norfolk
Posts: 69
Car(s): SAXO VTR 1.6 AND mk3 rs turbp fiesta
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all3
can sum1 plz help cannot find my brown wires  
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9th December 2007, 18:07
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#76
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Llanelli
Posts: 1,800
Car(s): Saxo project S1400!!!
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problem solved....
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14th December 2007, 20:32
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#77
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: anglesey
Posts: 1,055
Car(s): saxo vtr turbo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D4V1D
Bought a 99 Westcoast VTR about 3-4 months ago. Everything was fine until a few days ago, i got in my car for work and found i had no PAS and blowers. Checked this forum for any other experiences, found this great page and found a solution. Went out side to look this thing over, to find mine had already been done before now.... But... this is wot i did find......someone had put in a in-line fuse between the connection of the 2 brown wires and it melt the fuse and it's holder, causing it to fall apart ( losing my PAS and blowers). It appear it was a 30amp fuse and was too strong to break the circuit.... Was thinking of installing a new in-line fuse holder and trying a smaller fuse like a 20a or 25a. So at least it wont overheat and cause melting.
Does anyone else support the idea to put an in-line fuse between the connection of the brown wires?? I find this a more safe and efficent way of making this 'By Pass' work.
Got a pic of damage caused, not sure how to upload it. Can anyone Help |
what the hell is a wescoast vtr????lol
ive just tried this method and it works. if people are worried bout the cables melting, put in a switch in between both browns
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Last edited by medz_vtrturbo; 14th December 2007 at 20:57.
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17th December 2007, 22:39
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#78
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Newbie
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Wrexham
Posts: 7
Car(s): Saxo VTR Phase 1
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what if all three are working.... but not 100%? the PAS and heater only work 50/50 and the demister only heats the button... lol
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18th December 2007, 16:58
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#79
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Swansea (South Wales)
Posts: 558
Car(s): Silver Saxo Furio 2000
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Had this problem.
had to pay £120 for new ignition switch, Whata cunt.
better safe than sorry though i guess
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9th January 2008, 18:05
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#80
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Newbie
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3
Car(s): Saxo VTR
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pas, heaters, rear demister
Can anyone tell me what the 2 brown wires actually do? Can't find them under the steering column, so took whole dash out and still can't find them where do the brown wires start? Please help driving me insane
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