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6th June 2010, 11:47
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#61
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im glad mine is 16v.. and i would of left it in 2nd for longer..
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saxo 1.1 with extra valves
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6th June 2010, 11:54
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#62
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:L you lot make me feel pathetic going around in a furio lol 60 in 2nd gear???? dats mad :L mine would rattle apart. anyone know how much it is to get a new cam and fitted? or would a remap alone be enough?
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6th June 2010, 13:06
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#63
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That intake pipe is a bit messy lol
The more straight the pipe is, the better, the air will be very turbulent with that pipe, the general idea is small lengths of pipe, with few bends and where needed you use a smooth 90 or 45, that has far too many bends in a little straight.
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6th June 2010, 15:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by -Alex-
That intake pipe is a bit messy lol
The more straight the pipe is, the better, the air will be very turbulent with that pipe, the general idea is small lengths of pipe, with few bends and where needed you use a smooth 90 or 45, that has far too many bends in a little straight.
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Its also right next to the manifold lol.
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how big is it, edge to edge?
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Originally Posted by 12u55
14 inches or so.
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Originally Posted by ns9900
sorry bud, too big for me. GLWS tho
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6th June 2010, 15:26
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yes i know the filter pipe isnt strait but that pipe is a turbo pipe off a skyline so not the best thing really. it is a hell of allot better than the filter being strait on the throttle body. but yes i agree it does need a strait pipe sorting out and moving again.
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6th June 2010, 15:34
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#66
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hey not being funny but somone counted 9 seconds right to 0 - 60 .... according to another thread the vTR : 0 to 100Km/h 11.4 seconds Vts : 8.7 seconds
SO doesnt that mean it's rather GOOD ? even if it's 10 seconds its 1.4 seconds quicker than standard ?
i'l make another vid today
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7th June 2010, 19:27
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It looks a bit slow when you watch it, but my VTR is now back to completely standard and the speedo says roughly 63 mph in 2nd gear which is about 58/59mph (have to rip the gatso snooper off the motorbike and test it, surprisingly 3 year in the rain, sun, snow etc and that thing still work and tells me to fasten my seatbelt rofl)
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7th June 2010, 19:34
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#68
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I bet your clutch loves you.No offence but i forgot how slow 8 valves were.So glad i upgraded.
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7th June 2010, 19:35
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#69
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: southnormanton
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Car(s): saxo 1.4
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I reakon your vtr isnt too bad mate. I seen this thread last night and i thought i would give it ago in mine hahahah.
My 1.4 does bang on 60mph on the tom tom and shows 65mph on speedo when hitting limiter in second gear. im sure if you do some later gear shifts near the limiter you will get a better time.
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7th June 2010, 20:06
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#70
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Car(s): 2001 VTS
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YouTube seems to be stuck in slow motion or something!?
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7th June 2010, 21:23
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Originally Posted by saxokitney
I bet your clutch loves you.No offence but i forgot how slow 8 valves were.So glad i upgraded.
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everyone says that, lol but If i could afford an M3 e36 id be saying the same thing, as drove one at work and i just scream everytime i sit in it "i wannntt yoouu" , kinda like when i first drove my VTR at the showroom and thought "omg, its a go kart - must buy"
Maby one day.
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7th June 2010, 21:38
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Originally Posted by Saaamon
It will only trim it.
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std ecu will only trim when in closed loop control ,so after around 4k + full throttle there will be no triming at all--just the base map
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7th June 2010, 21:43
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Originally Posted by Stissy
does the length of the pipe matter with an air filter?
i always thought you needed a volume of air already filtered, or is the shorter the better?
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technically --yes pipe dia = length do matter and at the end of the tuned length there should be a bell mouth shape --then you can go as long as you like providing it is large enough --having too large a pipe in the tuned length will degrade powwr as gas speed will not be high enough to give the best gas speed/volume.
inreality we are talking about very small amounts of power on a very mildly tuned engine .
a 55-60mm pipe from t/body to middle of head is the correct length ,then bell mouth for a vts 16v with road spec cams --never done any testing with an 8v
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7th June 2010, 21:47
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#74
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Quote:
Originally Posted by axsaxoman
std ecu will only trim when in closed loop control ,so after around 4k + full throttle there will be no triming at all--just the base map
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I thought that was the case - was trying to tell someone about this but couldn't remember where if read it
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7th June 2010, 21:48
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#75
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Bournemouth/Surrey
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Car(s): Mk2 VTR
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Im hoping this was on a private track or a rolling road!
If not im calling 999 like now...
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7th June 2010, 22:37
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#76
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heres a video of my vts for comparison.Raceland mani,sportex full system and 1.1 box,
sorry for the poor quality but you get the idea
0-60mph in 6secs according to the vid..
Last edited by K17NEY; 7th June 2010 at 22:59.
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7th June 2010, 22:50
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#77
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thats impressives, your 1.1 box make much of a diffence?
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7th June 2010, 22:53
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#78
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timmythechef
thats impressives, your 1.1 box make much of a diffence?
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Yes! it hardly looses any revs between gears.Dont last long tho.
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7th June 2010, 22:55
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#79
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tryner
I reakon your vtr isnt too bad mate. I seen this thread last night and i thought i would give it ago in mine hahahah.
My 1.4 does bang on 60mph on the tom tom and shows 65mph on speedo when hitting limiter in second gear. im sure if you do some later gear shifts near the limiter you will get a better time.
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i agree with this guy, i get 65mph (speedo) on mine, and i have de-cat, straight zorst, port and polish and resited valves last month, and i can honestly say, i cant see a difference between my furio and your vtr
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7th June 2010, 22:57
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#80
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saxokitney
Yes! it hardly looses any revs between gears.Dont last long tho.
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im not sure if i have one tbh, i got a furio, and i know with furios, they just threw what ever they had in the factory on them, might see you in a south wales meet one day
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