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5th April 2009, 16:31
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This is a pic from an old ccc mag of a saxo mk1 black top,with s1 inlet and enclosed airbox,and richard longman head work,with 160bhp.
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5th April 2009, 16:33
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4th May 2009, 17:36
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: yeovil
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Car(s): 106 quiksilver/vtr
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i will have some piks soon fitting the inlet to a vtr engine with quiksilver/westcoast wiring just fine tuning the wiring
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7th September 2009, 12:52
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Gosport
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Car(s): saxo VTR, Clio 1.2 turbo, prious, Kawasaki 363 nin
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Originally Posted by KamRacing
i'd only do it if fitting certain cams.. the standard VTR inlet manifold just doesn't cut it
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what Cam would you fit and whty??
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7th September 2009, 16:42
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Location: Birtley
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Car(s): VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
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the lairiest camshaft you can fit is the ph3 or equivilent, this will need the s1 as it wont idle propeprly as the standard in let is too restricive
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7th September 2009, 17:02
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#46
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understood, thats what i thought tbh.
my saxo has 13 row mocal with thermostatoic end plate, 4 branch exhaust stright through, with the pollished up 106 rallye inlet fanimold added i will cant a cam next. I want to run it about 135 - 140bhp with a rallye or xsi box, but bullit proof internals, bit by bit i want to by con rods, big ends etc etc... then map it to rev its tits off....
what cam would you recomend to reach 135 - 145 bhp with those mods?? mid range torque is what i would like the most...
oh also what is the biggest OE radiator you can fot the the saxo? I could have go a Peugoet 405 GLX rad for £20 earlier...
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Last edited by WestyVTR; 7th September 2009 at 17:05.
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7th September 2009, 20:05
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Car(s): VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
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getting a vtr to that power will cost a SERIOUS amount of money n/a, and an oil cooler with those mods is too much imo, will be overcooling your oil, with the power figures youll be at youll never get to a temp during general road driving that will require an oil cooler
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8th September 2009, 11:06
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its lasted well with the oil cooler so far 144k! thats why i have the thermostatic end plate so it only cools when hot enough...
So what bhp would you expect to see with a cam and remap with my mods, plus the 106 polished rallye inlet and xsi box ?? 130??
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8th September 2009, 13:13
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Location: Soton - Hedge End
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Car(s): TT 225, Charged Eunos
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Could this work on a furio?
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8th September 2009, 17:22
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dpends on timing, how good the map is,type of camshaft, and generall condition of the engine,and also what other mods, i wouldnt imagine an engine with that amount of miles would see such a high figure but it does happen occasionally, 120-125 is a safer bet, not many get to 130
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9th September 2009, 10:22
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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5
dpends on timing, how good the map is,type of camshaft, and generall condition of the engine,and also what other mods, i wouldnt imagine an engine with that amount of miles would see such a high figure but it does happen occasionally, 120-125 is a safer bet, not many get to 130
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ok so im looking at 130bhp in dreamland down hill with a good honest fart behind it... lol. 126 sounds a nice figure to aim for then.... Power engineering it rr'd 110bhp with 110lbs/ft that was with piperX open filter and oe fanimold, no cat striaght through exhaust. i have a laminated copy somewhere.
The engine imo is a good egg, if you know what i mean, it seems to be a solid one straight from the assembly line, hense why i dont want to crack it open before i have to. lots of motorway driving and regular oil / liquid changes every 12k, has seen it wear well i hope.
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15th March 2010, 19:27
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Fitted one of these for Jordy_6969 today, works a treat, started up first time and ran like a dream.
Shame we had to cutup the 57i intake pipe though!
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15th March 2010, 19:34
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: dorset
Posts: 1,113
Car(s): saxo vtr mk1
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ive just done this using vtr throttle boddie i had mine englarged to match rallye inlet and is spot on
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red vinyl roof, lowered 55mm, morretts, 205 alloys, ax gti seats, plasmas, stripped out, lightened flywheel, pipercross viper, dimma kitted, full magnex, rallye inlet, soon coilovers, http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=197676
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15th March 2010, 20:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dorsetsaxo
ive just done this using vtr throttle boddie i had mine englarged to match rallye inlet and is spot on
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Where is your battery?
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17th March 2010, 10:33
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Where does the engine breather pipe connect up to, well confused because Ive got no where to connect it to?
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18th March 2010, 22:28
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Location: dorset
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Car(s): saxo vtr mk1
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in da boot
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red vinyl roof, lowered 55mm, morretts, 205 alloys, ax gti seats, plasmas, stripped out, lightened flywheel, pipercross viper, dimma kitted, full magnex, rallye inlet, soon coilovers, http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=197676
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18th March 2010, 22:29
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Location: dorset
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Car(s): saxo vtr mk1
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Originally Posted by Jordy6969
Where does the engine breather pipe connect up to, well confused because Ive got no where to connect it to?
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goes to catch tank behind passenger head light
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red vinyl roof, lowered 55mm, morretts, 205 alloys, ax gti seats, plasmas, stripped out, lightened flywheel, pipercross viper, dimma kitted, full magnex, rallye inlet, soon coilovers, http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=197676
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19th March 2010, 15:38
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Loughborough
Posts: 305
Car(s): Saxo MK1 VTR
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does it make alot of difference by fitting these? i am guessing it just gives it a better flow?
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19th March 2010, 15:43
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset
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Car(s): VTRallye
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increase in torque ive felt...
and the noise 
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19th March 2010, 21:26
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Location: dorset
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Car(s): saxo vtr mk1
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yeah definatley does seem alot better with it and the noise at 5k is cool
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red vinyl roof, lowered 55mm, morretts, 205 alloys, ax gti seats, plasmas, stripped out, lightened flywheel, pipercross viper, dimma kitted, full magnex, rallye inlet, soon coilovers, http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=197676
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