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Old 10th December 2009, 20:05   #621
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Good to know.

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Old 16th December 2009, 20:22   #622
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Citroen saxo 1.6 vts
Track use only

Running standard engine setup
Except manifold and exhaust
God only knows what i put in there last. After reading your post i hang my head in shame.

Saxo furio 1.4
day to day use
doesnt really get thrashed or driven hard
part synthetic 10w-40 from motor factors

please suggest me something good for both cars
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Old 17th December 2009, 09:37   #623
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I would use a 5w-40 synthetic for both cars

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx

Out of those, the best ones are the Silkolene Pro S, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Gulf Formula G, Fuchs Supersyn and Mobil Synt S are good, cheaper alternatives. Go with one of the good oils in the track car and either will do for the road car

As a budget choice, for the road car, a 10w-40 will be fine and I would either go for the Fuchs XTR or Motul 6100

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx

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Old 18th December 2009, 17:27   #624
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Saxo Vtr
2003 40,000 miles
1.6 8v

Is completely standard
Road use only
I have no idea whats in it at the moment, its whatever was in there at purchase

A recomendation for engine oil use please?
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Old 19th December 2009, 16:09   #625
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I would use a 5w-40 synthetic and you will find those through the link below.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx

The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Gulf Formula G, Fuchs Supersyn and Mobil Synt S are good choices.

As a budget choice, a 10w-40 will be fine and I would either go for the Fuchs XTR or Motul 6100

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx

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Old 19th December 2009, 20:17   #626
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I would use a 5w-40 synthetic and you will find those through the link below.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx

The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Gulf Formula G, Fuchs Supersyn and Mobil Synt S are good choices.

As a budget choice, a 10w-40 will be fine and I would either go for the Fuchs XTR or Motul 6100

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx

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Thanks mate. If I were to make the following modifications to the car: new panel filter & full exhaust system would that alter the oil i'd need at all?
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Old 19th December 2009, 22:06   #627
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Nope, the same oil will be just fine

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Saxo VTS
2000 V reg, 75000 miles
Full s/s exhaust with de-cat.

Im thinking 5w-40 fully synthetic?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 19th January 2010, 18:26   #629
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Can I use 10-49 in 1.4 West Coast, have a half 5ltr can in garage?
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Opps that's meant to say 10-40
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Old 19th January 2010, 18:44   #631
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Saxo VTS
2000 V reg, 75000 miles
Full s/s exhaust with de-cat.

Im thinking 5w-40 fully synthetic?

Thanks in advance.
Absolutely spot on
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Old 19th January 2010, 18:44   #632
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Opps that's meant to say 10-40
Yes, that will be fine
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The rallye had been run on semi synthetic since 2002 which is not good, So i just bought some Silkolene Pro-S 5w-40 surely that will be fine mate?
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Also do you know of what a decent grade gearbox oil to use in the Rallye?
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The Pro S will be spot on and for the gearbox you need an MTF

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-670-75w-80-75w-85-mtfs.aspx

The Redline MTL, Amsoil MTF and Fuchs Sintofluid are the ones to go for.

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Hi, I am really wondering about that its not common here, to use
more high temperatur stable Oils

like the Mobil1 Rally 5w50 oder the Castrol 10w60 both are fully synth Oils.

But a 5w40 is also ok for normal driving. A 0w40 is in most cases to thin.

Important we do Oil changes every 10-15,000 km.

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Dont put SAE60 or 10w-60 anywhere near a Saxo, all its going to do is give it high blood pressure and just like us... Thats not good.

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There are people, speaking about that the 10w60 is to thick for the hydros, on the otherside I know some people talking about, that the thickness better seals the pistons to the combustion chambers, so it gives more tourqe.

Since I got my VTS I was driving the Mobil1 Rally 5w50 now about over 130,000 kilometers mostly with threadment, its acually the best Oil you can get, espacially for long extreme threadment to the engine like on touge battles or highway speed races.

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There are people, speaking about that the 10w60 is to thick for the hydros, on the otherside I know some people talking about, that the thickness better seals the pistons to the combustion chambers, so it gives more tourqe.
Interesting theory, but I doubt torque will increase, especially if BHP is lower then using a thinner oil.

Think of it like stirring a pot of treacle compared to stirring a pot of water, think resistance.

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Since I got my VTS I was driving the Mobil1 Rally 5w50 now about over 130,000 kilometers mostly with threadment, its acually the best Oil you can get,

Greetz Robert
Robert,

Sadly, Mobil 1 Rally 5w-50 is very far from being the best you can get.

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Old 25th January 2010, 17:31   #640
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In my opinion the thing is, on high temps a 5w40 is getting to thin, so the savety oilfilm isn't thick engouh and strong, result is losing oilpressure.

I don't know which Mobil1 Rally you got in the U.K., is it the same?

Ours got the best additive package, a really high viskoindex, a extreme high HTHS-value, only Castrol RS 10W60 and some pure racing Oils from Motul, all these aren't longlife oils got higher values, instead of beeing 15W50 20W60.
Also a high flamepoint.

I dont want to spam, I am open for new theorys, please explain what you are missing on Oils like these?

Because I always thought thhese specs were relevant, when pushing the 16V to the maximum.

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