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Old 26th January 2010, 23:31   #641
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saxo vtr , mk2 , 2000 reg , coming up to 120,000 miles .. get booted from time to time , mostly regular driving(ish) , am i right in thinking 5w 40 is right for me ?? rather check than watch her go bang lol , cheers in advance
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Old 27th January 2010, 16:20   #642
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what oil would i need

Vtr 2000
95,000 (woooo)
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short trips mainly.
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In my opinion the thing is, on high temps a 5w40 is getting to thin, so the savety oilfilm isn't thick engouh and strong, result is losing oilpressure.

I don't know which Mobil1 Rally you got in the U.K., is it the same?

Ours got the best additive package, a really high viskoindex, a extreme high HTHS-value, only Castrol RS 10W60 and some pure racing Oils from Motul, all these aren't longlife oils got higher values, instead of beeing 15W50 20W60.
Also a high flamepoint.

I dont want to spam, I am open for new theorys, please explain what you are missing on Oils like these?

Because I always thought thhese specs were relevant, when pushing the 16V to the maximum.

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What kind of oil temps are you getting? A good ester based performance synthetic 5w-40 is good to run around at 125degc all day long without beginning to shear down or loose its film strengh. Yes the SAE40 is thinner at 120degc then it is at 100degc and for a average group III (hydrocracked mineral) synthetic this would be a problem, but not for the top stuff. Low oil pressure at high temps is not as bad as it sounds, its just means the oil is moving much faster around the engine and this is a good thing as it helps to aid cooling and will keep the hydrodynamic lubrication up.

Dont get me wrong the Mobil Rally 5w-50 is a good oil, however for the same or similar money there is better available. The Mobil 5w-50 is a blend of group III and group IV base stock, at the top of the tree you have the group V synthetics and these are a blend of pao group IV and ester to make the best performance oils available. These are the likes of the Silkolene Pro S, Motul 300v, Redline, Gulf Comp and Millers CFS.

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saxo vtr , mk2 , 2000 reg , coming up to 120,000 miles .. get booted from time to time , mostly regular driving(ish) , am i right in thinking 5w 40 is right for me ?? rather check than watch her go bang lol , cheers in advance
5w-40 is bang on my friend http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx

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what oil would i need

Vtr 2000
95,000 (woooo)
manifold straight through magnex b/b de cat
green cotton

short trips mainly.
many thanks
10w-40 semi synthetic is the norm and with regular changes just fine, but if you want to go better for better protection and performance look at a 5w-40 synthetic http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx

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Hi oilman.

2 questions please

- What is Total Quartz 9000 5w40 like?

- My newly built engine, only done around 3000 miles is a real oil muncher. Seems healthy, but just likes to eat oil! I'm using fully synthetic 5w40 all the time. Most commonly I use Shell's Helix Ultra, but I've used Silkolene too. Both disappear very quickly. I was wondering, can you recommend a slightly thinker oil which may last longer? If there's such a solution?

The engine is running oversized high compression pistons, 280 degree camshafts, etc. All new internals.
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The Total 9000 is decent stuff, comparable to something like the Motul X-Cess.

How much oil is it going through per 1000 miles?

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Hi Tim.

I haven't used Motul X-Cess, so I'm not sure if that's good or bad? What's it like compared to Shell Helix Ultra fully synthetic 5w40 - which I use most commonly, and what's it like compared to Silkolene Pro S 5W40 - which I don't use too often. The reason I ask is because there's a place near me which sells it a fair bit cheaper than Shell's oil.

It's a little inconsistent Tim, but unfortunately, I think it's more than a litre per 1000 miles.
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Motul X-Cess is similar to the Shell Helix Ultra, definately comparable. The Pro S is quite a bit better, when it comes to track performance. For day to day stuff, the cheaper oils are fine.

Over 1 litre per 1000 miles is quite a lot. You could try a 10w-50 or 15w-50, but it sounds as though there may be a problem somewhere.
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Aye. It's been like from day one. It's done around 3000 miles now. It's had 3 oil changes, and the oil has come out looking pretty used for such low mileage. Performance is top notch. Funny one...
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citroen saxo

1.1 8v

mk1

gearbox oil please.

just for everyday use need to top it up as lost a little bit earlier today.

induction kit.

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We recommend this one for the gearbox http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-981-fuch...ion-fluid.aspx

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Should be a quick one for you, having a quick skim through 5w 40 of sorts seems the usual choice.

1.6 16v engine
Cammed (708's) with TB's

Its not my every day driver so when its used its not used gently.

Just looking for an oil thatll keep it smooth and protected.

Is this silkolene one any good for what im after?

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-1146-sil...e-engines.aspx

Also how soon can you deliver? Ill be needing to have the oil by Friday 12th latest. I can order now.

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Should be a quick one for you, having a quick skim through 5w 40 of sorts seems the usual choice.

1.6 16v engine
Cammed (708's) with TB's

Its not my every day driver so when its used its not used gently.

Just looking for an oil thatll keep it smooth and protected.

Is this silkolene one any good for what im after?

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-1146-sil...e-engines.aspx

Also how soon can you deliver? Ill be needing to have the oil by Friday 12th latest. I can order now.

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I used the Pro S in mine on the last service, and she seems to be running smoother, seems like good stuff

Also, PM Kam Racing about Pro S, thats where I got mine from and he did me a good deal.
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The Pro S would be ideal.

We should be able to get it to you for Wednesday if you order it tonight or tomorrow.

By all means get other prices, but we'll match them if they beat us.

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The Pro S would be ideal.

We should be able to get it to you for Wednesday if you order it tonight or tomorrow.

By all means get other prices, but we'll match them if they beat us.

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Thats great thanks for the quick reply Tim, much appreciated.

If you can get it here that quick thatll be spot on. Just ordered and paid

Thanks again
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Thanks for the order

I just checked and it should be going today, to arrive tomorrow.

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Thanks for the order

I just checked and it should be going today, to arrive tomorrow.

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As promised. Arrived this morning

Thanks very much, shall definately be recommending you
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Glad it all worked out as I said, and thanks for the feedback
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Could you recommend me an oil for a 2001 vtr, registered in may but havent worked out bhp model it is yet, not sure if this makes a difference?

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citroen saxo
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induction kit, oil breather (whats this for?) soon to have piper back box and supersprint centre section.

road use
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