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Old 3rd September 2014, 12:24   #1141
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Hi

I don't deal with Triple QX, so can't say much on their oils.

There are ways of making oils so that the oils sound like they are the same, but they are actually quite different. There are 5 different basestock types to pick from.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/tech-...scriptions.pdf

The new Shell oils are a bit of an odd one, rather than using refined oils to make the group 3 oils, they use gases to make a purer oil, so you could look at the Shell synthetics as being somewhere between the group 3 and 4. Cheaper oils are always group 3, it tends to cost over £40 per 5L for a group 4 or 5 oil. Really cheap oils tend to be made from recycled basestocks, and they have often lost a lot of their properties due to the action of the engine.

Another way to save money in the production of an oil is to reduce the quality/quantity of the oil additives.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/tech-...dified-Car.pdf

One of the common things is to list an oil as 'meets requirements of (manufacturer specification)' or 'can be used where (manufacturer specification) is required'. Those oils tend not to be manufacturer approved and you are taking the oil manufacturer's word that the oil is up to spec. Getting proper approvals can cost hundreds of thousands of pounds, so that can be a big saving in the cost of an oil.

Quality control can also suffer during the production of cheaper oils. One company we deal with were testing several 5w-40 oils. One was found to be a 20w-40, one a 15w-40, a couple of 10w-40s and 5w-30s were in there as well.

I don't know the Triple QX, so don't know if any of that applies to it, but I do know that the Shell is a a decent, properly made oil that is a sensible price for what it is.

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Old 6th September 2014, 06:39   #1142
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What would you advise for a:

Saxo 1.1i (standard)
Yr 00
210k Km
Runs mostly on the highway, at 110km, but tends to speed up to 130/140 km/hr once a while

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Vw Polo 1.0 (standard)
Yr 00
152k Km

Drive up to 125Km/hr

What would be best considering here (in Mauritius) it warm almost everyday, even in winter (lowest temp would be around 12/13 degress only)

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What oil do you currently use? Do they burn much oil? Are there any problems with oil pressure?

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Hi Tim,

Sorry for delay, hadn't been much online those days

I've been using mainly 10w-40 / 20w50 (once)
didn't notice any burn oil or whatsoever with the Saxo but did with the VW
No issue noticed either with oil pressure (didn't have this check either)

The VW just changed to 15w-40

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Old 8th September 2014, 09:14   #1143
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Hi Joel

I'd probably use a 10w-40 (or 15w-40) in both, with the air temps over there, either grade will be fine.

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Old 9th September 2014, 12:05   #1144
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Old 17th September 2014, 13:00   #1145
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Wanting some advice looking to change oil this weekend had cheap stuff in for last 3 months comma 10w40 semi wanting to drop it now n put something better in. Saxo vtr 2002 421 manifold n straight pipe to back box only mods other than vts gearbox. What is recommended full fat preferbly
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Old 17th September 2014, 13:56   #1146
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Hi

I would use a 5w-40 synthetic.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx

Out of those, the best ones are the Fuchs/Silkolene Pro S, Millers CFS/CFS NT, Motul 300V, Red Line and Gulf Competition. The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Millers XF Longlife, Fuchs GT1 XTL/Supersyn, Gulf Formula G, Shell Helix and Mobil Super 3000 are good, cheaper alternatives.

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Old 17th September 2014, 20:42   #1147
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Thanks pal herd rumours that a decent oil could improve performance is this true or just bull? I would of thought n buy better oil to better protect my engine
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Old 18th September 2014, 09:05   #1148
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Hi

The better the oil is, the less friction there should be, leading to less internal resistance and potentially a little more power. Millers Nanodrive oils take that a bit further.

http://www.millersoils.co.uk/nanodrive.asp

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Old 18th September 2014, 14:32   #1149
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2002 Saxo 1.1 Desire
Just hit 40K
Use for road mainly but usually give it a good thrashing every now and again
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Hi

I would use a 5w-40 synthetic as the best option.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx

Out of those, the best ones are the Fuchs/Silkolene Pro S, Millers CFS NT/CFS, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Millers XFS, Shell Helix, Fuchs Supersyn and Mobil Super 3000 are good, cheaper alternatives.

As a budget choice, a 10w-40 will be fine and I would either go for the Fuchs Syn MC, Shell Helix, Millers Trident/EE Nanodrive, Castrol Magnatec, Mobil Super 2000 or Motul 6100

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx

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Old 18th September 2014, 19:51   #1151
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The better the oil is, the less friction there should be, leading to less internal resistance and potentially a little more power. Millers Nanodrive oils take that a bit further.

http://www.millersoils.co.uk/nanodrive.asp

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But isnt that for engines with hydraulic tappets? Think im going to go with the mobil 3000
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Also would you recommend using a engine flush?
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Old 19th September 2014, 08:41   #1153
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It's for pretty much all engines. I wouldn't use a flush, that can be too harsh, it's best to fill it with a cheap oil and use that for a few days to let the detergents clean the engine, then drop that out and put the good oil in.

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Old 19th September 2014, 19:24   #1154
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Ok cheers tim lastly will i have to change the filter twice as well?
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Old 22nd September 2014, 08:17   #1155
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No, you shouldn't need to.

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Old 1st October 2014, 01:45   #1156
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Thinking of doing an oil change soon on my 2002 saxo vts. what would you choose out of these shell engine oil (helix hx7 10w-40 5ltr) or castrol engine oil (magnatec 10w-40 4ltr)

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Old 1st October 2014, 09:12   #1157
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They are both similar, I would have no preference between them, just go for whichever is better value.

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Hi Tim

What would you recommend for a high mileage (123k) saxo VTR?

Usually bung in 10/40 Semi Synth - Am I ok to keep doing this?

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Yes, that will be fine for it.

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Old 29th October 2014, 13:02   #1160
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Hi Oilman,
what about Millers Nanodrive 10W50 for a trackday Saxo 1.6 16v ?
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