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11th January 2012, 18:52
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Originally Posted by Dizzy
have a jar of peanut butter a day instead of refined carb calories from pasta and rice. I assume you will be weight training 3x a week. So on your training days aim for 150g of carbs in the morning, then 250g of carbs within 2 hours of finishing training (buying glucose powder and adding 100g to a PWO shake is a good way of helping this) Then on off days do some hill sprints and have 100g of carbs in the morning only. This should promote weight gain but without the fat gains even people with fast metabolisms can get.
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A jar of peanut butter a day sounds interesting!  I dont get what you mean about the carbs though. Are you drescribing a clean bulking diet?
How would you suggest to consume 150g of carbs in the mornings? I struggle to finish around 80-90g at the minute.
Then are you saying all other meals at protein and fat only? I used to do this plan (with less carbs) when cutting.
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11th January 2012, 22:28
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A few of these have probably been said!
Nuts. Comples carbs, good fats
Couple of spoonfulls of peanut butter(dont eat the less fat ones tho as they have more sugar in them!!)
fruit. simple carb so try not to eat loads of fruits(getting ur 5 a day shud mainly be from veg)
homous with veg sticks, very good alternative to crisps and a dip, again a complex carb
I snack on flapjacks aswel, high content of complex carbs, good fats. I do a lot of cv so be careful with eating these if you dont as they are very calorific
Did someone also say an apple is more filling than nuts?
I dont think so as an apple is a simple carb and nuts are complex
Fook me dizzy, dont suggest eating 150g carbs in the morning, thas 600kcals. Do you realise thats 1600kcals of carbs your suggesting him to eat a day without knowing his training???!!!Or his goals???!!!
Last edited by skids_vts; 11th January 2012 at 22:32.
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12th January 2012, 12:09
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Originally Posted by skids_vts
A few of these have probably been said!
Nuts. Comples carbs, good fats
Couple of spoonfulls of peanut butter(dont eat the less fat ones tho as they have more sugar in them!!)
fruit. simple carb so try not to eat loads of fruits(getting ur 5 a day shud mainly be from veg)
homous with veg sticks, very good alternative to crisps and a dip, again a complex carb
I snack on flapjacks aswel, high content of complex carbs, good fats. I do a lot of cv so be careful with eating these if you dont as they are very calorific
Did someone also say an apple is more filling than nuts?
I dont think so as an apple is a simple carb and nuts are complex
Fook me dizzy, dont suggest eating 150g carbs in the morning, thas 600kcals. Do you realise thats 1600kcals of carbs your suggesting him to eat a day without knowing his training???!!!Or his goals???!!!
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Im assuming hes drescribing a clean bulk. I think the logic behind it is your breakfast and your pwo meal are the most important. As your body needs to restock its glycogen levels therefore not much, if any of it is stored as fat because your body uses it all.
Im not arguing with the amount just how its possible to eat that much. Im just under 18stone and have a larrrrge appitite and I struggle with around 80-100g for breakfast and have around 130-150g PWO.
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12th January 2012, 13:03
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Originally Posted by DusheR
Im assuming hes drescribing a clean bulk. I think the logic behind it is your breakfast and your pwo meal are the most important. As your body needs to restock its glycogen levels therefore not much, if any of it is stored as fat because your body uses it all.
Im not arguing with the amount just how its possible to eat that much. Im just under 18stone and have a larrrrge appitite and I struggle with around 80-100g for breakfast and have around 130-150g PWO.
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Man up!
No, quite honestly I have no idea how anyone would eat that amount either. I can eat an awful lot, but that would be VERY hard to do. Maybe adopt the same technique as a python, eat, eat, eat, eat then loaf around for a week and digest.
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12th January 2012, 18:38
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Originally Posted by Dave_E30
Man up!
No, quite honestly I have no idea how anyone would eat that amount either. I can eat an awful lot, but that would be VERY hard to do. Maybe adopt the same technique as a python, eat, eat, eat, eat then loaf around for a week and digest.
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Its came to the point where Im force feeding myself, reaching etc. Not pleasant! So Ive got myself some of MP's weight gainer (trying it instead of the usual oats idea), having that with my PWO meal. So Ill be having 50g from the waxy maise starch, 80g or so with the meal and 40g with the shake. 170g of carbs PWO isnt too bad
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12th January 2012, 19:22
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Originally Posted by DusheR
Its came to the point where Im force feeding myself, reaching etc. Not pleasant! So Ive got myself some of MP's weight gainer (trying it instead of the usual oats idea), having that with my PWO meal. So Ill be having 50g from the waxy maise starch, 80g or so with the meal and 40g with the shake. 170g of carbs PWO isnt too bad 
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That's really good mate! You struggling to gain weight again?
Force feeding is never good though. Should be reserved for xmas day, new years day and parmo's only!
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12th January 2012, 22:10
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Originally Posted by Dave_E30
That's really good mate! You struggling to gain weight again?
Force feeding is never good though. Should be reserved for xmas day, new years day and parmo's only!
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A little yeh but its all good, still the heaviest Ive been! Trainings going well, apart from the new years starters getting in the way, playing on their phones.
Ive had a parmo down your end, fucking lovely.
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13th January 2012, 00:56
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Originally Posted by McGuire86
If you're finding yourself hungry between meals then you're not eating enough.
How many meals do you consume on a daily basis truthfully ?
Eat 4-5 good meals throughout the day with a few shakes in between. If you're hungry then add more to your meals. Drink more water between meals aswell. Snacks are usually because you are bored though, it's mostly a case of wanting it, not needing it.
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Proper meals 2-3 Breakfast Lunch at work and dinner when im home.
Definitely need to drink more water i can do that. Shakes ive been taking the phd synergy one cos the person in the nutri shop recommended it? BUT gives me such a bad stomach im doing the nastiest farts and shits all the time so it put me right off that now ive finished it.
Snacks i feel like i Want it because i need it, to help put on weight if you get what i mean .
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13th January 2012, 09:24
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Originally Posted by DusheR
A little yeh but its all good, still the heaviest Ive been! Trainings going well, apart from the new years starters getting in the way, playing on their phones.
Ive had a parmo down your end, fucking lovely.
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It's a shame they are so so bad for you... chicken though, so protein I guess :\
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Originally Posted by MattSaxoVTR
Proper meals 2-3 Breakfast Lunch at work and dinner when im home.
Definitely need to drink more water i can do that. Shakes ive been taking the phd synergy one cos the person in the nutri shop recommended it? BUT gives me such a bad stomach im doing the nastiest farts and shits all the time so it put me right off that now ive finished it.
Snacks i feel like i Want it because i need it, to help put on weight if you get what i mean .
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If you are going to drink more water, may I suggest that you don't drink very cold water, try room temp. I say this because drinking cold water or icy cold water WILL make you more hungry.
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