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Old 21st June 2018, 06:19   #1
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I have found a fault code with my scanner,but my eml is not on.
could anyone explain what is going on .
the code is po380 glow plug problem.
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Old 21st June 2018, 20:14   #2
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Old 21st June 2018, 22:11   #3
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I have found a fault code with my scanner,but my eml is not on.
could anyone explain what is going on .
the code is po380 glow plug problem.
thanks
If this is a 1.5D engine, ECU codes aren't to be trusted. the glow plug circuit is TOTALLY separate from the ECU. the ECU cannot detect glow plug faults.

obviously if you have a petrol engine this is clearly an error.
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thanks,it is a 1.5dci renault engine.im having the plugs changed.
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Old 23rd June 2018, 00:26   #5
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thanks,it is a 1.5dci renault engine.im having the plugs changed.
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Alright well that's handy to know, you did post in a Saxo forum it has to be assumed it's either a Saxo or a 106
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Old 23rd June 2018, 06:17   #6
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with citroen and renault both being french i was hoping someone could shed some light on the fault code.
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Old 23rd June 2018, 08:29   #7
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thanks,it is a 1.5dci renault engine.im having the plugs changed.
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Not stating which car it is! Just Lol.
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with citroen and renault both being french i was hoping someone could shed some light on the fault code.
Codes starting with P0XXX aren't manufacturer specific. That's the whole point of OBD

However, P1, P2 etc codes can be specific

as can codes starting with B, C and U. I think - none of my cars can produce these codes so never looked into it in detail.
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Not all codes put the MIL on.
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if its pre 2005 then you can never trust the codes given with a generic tool, more often than not you need a Manufacturer specific diagnostic tool
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if its pre 2005 then you can never trust the codes given with a generic tool, more often than not you need a Manufacturer specific diagnostic tool
It doesn't go by year

OBD2 has been a standard since 1996. ANY generic tool can read the basic codes no problem.
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It doesn't go by year

OBD2 has been a standard since 1996. ANY generic tool can read the basic codes no problem.
What about these cheap bluetooth/wifi devices for android? ELM327 they were called?
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It doesn't go by year

OBD2 has been a standard since 1996. ANY generic tool can read the basic codes no problem.
nope, its 2005 they have to for EOBD.

correction, 2004 for diesels, 2001 for petrol for clarification, many manufacturers like VW have used the OBD2/EOBD protocol for years, around 96 like you mentioned, however the french ones have tended not to.

you will get a code but they will be wrong or misleading.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-board_diagnostics#EOBD

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What about these cheap bluetooth/wifi devices for android? ELM327 they were called?
They will work with OBD2 only

They won't work with EOBD generally

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nope, its 2005 they have to for EOBD.

correction, 2004 for diesels, 2001 for petrol for clarification, many manufacturers like VW have used the OBD2/EOBD protocol for years, around 96 like you mentioned, however the french ones have tended not to.

you will get a code but they will be wrong or misleading.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-board_diagnostics#EOBD
I am aware the french are awkward or

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