The BIG Modern Warfare 2 Thread - Page 19 - Saxperience

Prickle^p · 12th February 2010, 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom

Going to have to dissagree with you there Toad

I find that the intervention is the best

Although i havn't used the M21 yet lol

M21 usually takes 2 or 3 shots bar head.

Intervention owns but i still feel the Barrett has that extra powaa. I use Intervention with FMJ. Its a must tbh. Post those facts y0.

Toad · 12th February 2010, 15:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_G

M21 usually takes 2 or 3 shots bar head.

Intervention owns but i still feel the Barrett has that extra powaa. I use Intervention with FMJ. Its a must tbh. Post those facts y0.

Please read the chart.

FMJ only increases the bullet's pentration value, so it doesn't add any damage.

The M21 gets a 1.1 multiplier to the chest, therefore will OHK with Stopping Power to the chest. Without Stopping Power, it will only OHK to the head. I use the M21 silenced with Cold Blooded. It requires 2 hits to anywhere on the body as a result. However, you can pull off 2 bullets almost simultaneously, so it works quite nice.

For those that don't know, the sniper rifles only deal 50 damage per bullet if a silencer is used. Normally, a silencer only reduces the range of the gun, however, sniper rifles and also LMGs get bullet power loss, 20 for snipers and 10 for LMGs.

Prickle^p · 12th February 2010, 15:16

Ok i will.

I use to be fond of the M21, il check those stats and try it out again.

Hate snipers silenced.

I prefer cold blooded thats the problem, hate getting killed by a harrier etc.

Toad · 12th February 2010, 15:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_G

Ok i will.

I use to be fond of the M21, il check those stats and try it out again.

Hate snipers silenced.

I prefer cold blooded thats the problem, hate getting killed by a harrier etc.

The WA2000 is good with a silencer + Stopping Power. It will OHK to the chest or head. Cold Blooded + silencer will never OHK, so you want the sniper rifle which will fire with the least recoil and and best return to centre speed. So the M21 wins here.

Proffitt · 12th February 2010, 15:28

I'm going to use the M21 tonight and see what you're on about.
Will feedback tomoz / Monday

Prickle^p · 12th February 2010, 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

The WA2000 is good with a silencer + Stopping Power. It will OHK to the chest or head. Cold Blooded + silencer will never OHK, so you want the sniper rifle which will fire with the least recoil and and best return to centre speed. So the M21 wins here.

Ive relised lol. Ive shot enemies in the head with a silenced snipers (was Barrett, cold blooded at the time) Im like wtf!

Intervention recoil imo is awful so i quickly no scope/scope to try and kill.

People say Wa2000 is terible but i thought it was pretty good.

Il re-trial M21.

Toad · 12th February 2010, 16:02

No-scoping is for show-offs. Snipers should be a long way from the action...

Tom: Hold your breath with the M21, then get your aim on target, then let go of the hold breath button, and then fire twice as quick as possible. It's sweet. The trick is not holding your breath for longer than a second, and then timing it right so that you fire just after you let go of the hold breath. Reason behind this is that the M21 allows you to fire two bullets practically in line with each other if: Done quickly enough, and if hold breath is NOT used.

Sam- · 14th February 2010, 09:08

Anyone fancy a game of 1 vs 1 or something? i fancy trying my run and gun class

-Alex- · 14th February 2010, 11:03

S&D class
Marathon Pro
Cold Blooded (CBA getting pro, been there done that)
Ninja Pro
Famas Silenced
Spas 12 w/ Grip
Claymore
2 x stun

Proffitt · 15th February 2010, 10:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

Tom: Hold your breath with the M21, then get your aim on target, then let go of the hold breath button, and then fire twice as quick as possible. It's sweet. The trick is not holding your breath for longer than a second, and then timing it right so that you fire just after you let go of the hold breath. Reason behind this is that the M21 allows you to fire two bullets practically in line with each other if: Done quickly enough, and if hold breath is NOT used.

Toad: You know what you're on about to be fair

I used the M21 over the weekend and im in love lol. It's awesome in hardcore but works just as well in normal.

Toad · 15th February 2010, 14:39

Hehe

Glad you like.

How were you using it in normal?

Proffitt · 15th February 2010, 14:42

In normal:

M21 with FMJ
Stopping power pro
Ninja pro

Hardcore:

M21 with silencer
Cold Blooded pro
Ninja pro

Comments? lol

Ryyy · 15th February 2010, 14:53

Why with silencer on Hardcore? theres no UAV Radar lol?!

I dont use H/Sensor or Silencers on this game, totally shit tbh.

My main class I use is like this :

UMP45 Holo Sight, FMJ and Red Tiger
M9 & Tactical Knife
Bling Pro
Lightweight Pro
Ninja Pro

Proffitt · 15th February 2010, 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryyy

Why with silencer on Hardcore? theres no UAV Radar lol?!

I dont use H/Sensor or Silencers on this game, totally shit tbh.

My main class I use is like this :

UMP45 Holo Sight, FMJ and Red Tiger
M9 & Tactical Knife
Bling Pro
Lightweight Pro
Ninja Pro

But when someone brings in a UAV and you shoot without silencer, you show up....iirc! lol.

My main class is, hardcore / normal:

UMP45 with FMJ
RPG

Throwing knife
Stun
Marathon Pro
Cold Blooded Pro
Ninja Pro

Ryyy · 15th February 2010, 15:46

The Javelin is ace I can't stop using it lol

Toad · 15th February 2010, 15:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom

In normal:

M21 with FMJ
Stopping power pro
Ninja pro

Hardcore:

M21 with silencer
Cold Blooded pro
Ninja pro

Comments? lol

{shakes head}

No...

The M21 is ideal for a silent setup. Use the silencer + Cold Blooded. 2 hits to anywhere on the body and it's goodnight...

In your setup above, by adding Stopping Power you will get a OHK to the chest or head. Without Stopping Power, you will only OHK to the head. Have a think about this... If you used the WA2000, WITHOUT Stopping Power, it will OHK to the head and chest, just like the M21 WITH Stopping Power. So your current setup with the M21 is flawed, as it's outclassed by another rifle.

Proffitt · 15th February 2010, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

{shakes head}

No...

The M21 is ideal for a silent setup. Use the silencer + Cold Blooded. 2 hits to anywhere on the body and it's goodnight...

In your setup above, by adding Stopping Power you will get a OHK to the chest or head. Without Stopping Power, you will only OHK to the head. Have a think about this... If you used the WA2000, WITHOUT Stopping Power, it will OHK to the head and chest, just like the M21 WITH Stopping Power. So your current setup with the M21 is flawed, as it's outclassed by another rifle.

Hahahahahaah

Soooooo.....my class is ok for hardcore

BUT

When i play normal, i should use the WA2000 with out stopping power and used something useful like cold blooded?

Toad · 15th February 2010, 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom

Hahahahahaah

Soooooo.....my class is ok for hardcore

BUT

When i play normal, i should use the WA2000 with out stopping power and used something useful like cold blooded?

Well, that would be the best way if you wanted a setup similar... But that's the point I'm trying to get at. All the sniper rifles have their merits, you just need to know haw to use them. Well, the Intervention doesn't really. Sorry Intervention fans.

M21 is really a stealth rifle in this game if used for maximum benifit.

Toad · 15th February 2010, 16:09

I should add, the WA2000 kicks a little more than the M21, so it's not a open and shut case when comparing in the example above. Depending on the way you decide to play, the M21 isn't always the bad choice. But if you're going to play like a sniper should play, i.e., shooting from a distance and staying out of trouble, you'll kill the enemy easier with the WA2000.

Ryyy · 15th February 2010, 21:11

Toad,

Shurrrup slagging of the Intervention lol.

The Cheytac Inter is the best sniper rifle in the game and is used by most for a reason, very accurate at a distance while keeping the punch.