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24th May 2011, 19:26
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Vibra technics competition
For the time being the cars going to be a daily, would the vibra technics competition full mount set be too harsh for everyday use?
Also... wanting to price up some 26mm torsion bars if anyone knows anywhere
if that falls through ill just settle with 24/25mm
The setup on the fronts solid enough that absolute comfort is just out the window already
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you have just made your saxo same wieght as an evo 8
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24th May 2011, 19:31
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26mm bars will be nuts, theyre a bastard to fit and get the correct ride height with.
When it comes to the time contact IM Axles and you can get some 26mm bars through them
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24th May 2011, 19:32
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Those torsion bars will be ridiculous for everyday use and would require some seriously good rear dampers to cater for them
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24th May 2011, 19:34
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Those torsion bars will be ridiculous for everyday use and would require some seriously good rear dampers to cater for them
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Havnt got a print out with me, but can you rmember what lb the gaz golds rate at?
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24th May 2011, 19:35
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Originally Posted by willsy
Those torsion bars will be ridiculous for everyday use and would require some seriously good rear dampers to cater for them
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The initial plan was to go with Gaz Gold Comp. dampers, these ample you think?
Edit: Danny beat me to it ^_^
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24th May 2011, 19:46
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23mm would be the limit on the road mate, as I said on facebook 23mm if the car will predominently be a track car or used on smooth roads. A lower lb torsion bar will be better for most of the back roads to retain contact with the road. With the bumps on the back roads 23mm bars will just bounce over the road where as 21mm bars will absorb the bumps and push the tyre retaining more grip. Well more so over 23mm bars anyway.
26mm bars on a pure track car though
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24th May 2011, 19:50
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Saaaaaaaand mate! Mis-understood what you said
Cars only ever on motorways and bypasses, not many back roads round me at all, will go for the 23's then babes with Gaz Golds
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24th May 2011, 19:53
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I might have been tired when I explained it and worded it wrong or something!
23's feel good on smooth roads, not unusuable on the back roads though of course, just not the best you could get.
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25th May 2011, 11:58
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I would suggest you start with a 25mm rear arb if its for road use --then try it and decide on torsion bars then --alot cheaper too+ easier to fit
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25th May 2011, 12:58
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I couldnt see 26mm bars being beneficial atall?
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25th May 2011, 16:57
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Im running 200lb faulkners and bilstein group n's front/rear! And on country roads it doesn't absorb any bump.And thats with standard arb and torsion!
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25th May 2011, 17:11
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Originally Posted by mangojace
Im running 200lb faulkners and bilstein group n's front/rear! And on country roads it doesn't absorb any bump.And thats with standard arb and torsion!
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Ive got 325lb faulkners with pugsport GrpN's :/ Doesnt really absorb anything, unless you crawl over speedbumps and potholes
Its what i expected to be honest so if the backs just as hard im not gonna be bitching at all
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I would suggest you start with a 25mm rear arb if its for road use --then try it and decide on torsion bars then --alot cheaper too+ easier to fit
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Cheers buddy, might give this a whirl then and see how it goes
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I couldnt see 26mm bars being beneficial atall?
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Fair cop, thats why i posted here, get the wiser members contributing cheers man
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Last edited by Oc2; 25th May 2011 at 17:13.
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28th May 2011, 11:19
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I would say you can go upto 23mm on roads but anything after that will be seriously hard, having used my race car on a couple of roads with 26mm torsion bars, the thing just bounces all over the place.
Back to the original question, The vibratechnics mounts will be fine for road use, I believe they do 2 different grades too, best to stick with the fast road ones and I think the race ones have a solid rear mount.
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29th May 2011, 09:23
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I have Vibra technics mount on my vts and 23mm t bars/24mm arb with proper grp n billie Tarmac dampers and it's fine on the road. The eng mounts do make it quite buzzy inside but it doesn't bother me...
I have 25mm t bars on my 106 but ain't driven it since fitting them, fitting does take a while...
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