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18th September 2011, 11:07
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F1 cars aren't FWD as they have too much power. Given a certain power and weight FWD is king.
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18th September 2011, 14:25
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This why karts are rwd??
Surely theyre light enough to be fwd yea joe???
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18th September 2011, 15:36
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F1 cars aren't FWD as they have too much power. Given a certain power and weight FWD is king.
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what a silly silly thing to say....
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18th September 2011, 15:53
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There was a article about it in car or evo can't remember which.
They compared a lotus elise to some other similarly powered FWD car on a twisty road and the jist of it was that the FWD was better in the corners at least because of the weight/power.
Im not a scientist and don't care about the actual physics or that sort of krap so can't remember why this was just that it was 
and don't karts have the engine in the back? Makes sense to have them RWD then.
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18th September 2011, 16:33
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Dude just stop talking out your arse there is no way fwd is a better car
you dont need to care about the science or physics of all this but if your wrong then you probably should actually look at it and see
your just making yourself look an idiot...
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i passed over 5 years ago now. 3 points no crashes. I'm too good to crash...
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18th September 2011, 16:36
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In the rain rwd cars are far harder to drive, this is why they tend to go slower on the average track day with the investment banker behind the wheel.
If you can't appreciate or understand the maths behind it then you are in no position to go against it.
RWD VS FWD Spinning in the rain is all down to the polar moments of drive and the steering axis.
FWD can't really spin under power, only inertia, whereas rwd can do either. But with a good driver can use the power to modulate slip angles and lessen oversteer or understeer far more efficiently
Last edited by adamskiTNR; 18th September 2011 at 16:39.
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18th September 2011, 17:03
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Yes all car magazines talk out of their ass just because you don't want to believe something doesn't make it true
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18th September 2011, 19:47
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I fully accept RWD is quicker but comment I made was in wet with average person driving they are slower due to ability, which is true, that's all! I u disagree I don't care and cannot be bothered to continue thus petty argument as I have a life!
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18th September 2011, 20:03
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I agree, ability is a massive factor in any car test or comparison.
And Car magazine articles don't have to go through any legitimacy testing like proper books as they are pure opinion.
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18th September 2011, 20:25
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Yes all car magazines talk out of their ass just because you don't want to believe something doesn't make it true |
just because you believe everything you read in a glossy mag in wh smiths doesnt make it true 
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i passed over 5 years ago now. 3 points no crashes. I'm too good to crash...
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oh really.....
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18th September 2011, 21:55
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Instead of clogging up this thread, i've started a thread for the discussion here
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18th September 2011, 22:02
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Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy
There was a article about it in car or evo can't remember which.
They compared a lotus elise to some other similarly powered FWD car on a twisty road and the jist of it was that the FWD was better in the corners at least because of the weight/power.
Im not a scientist and don't care about the actual physics or that sort of krap so can't remember why this was just that it was
and don't karts have the engine in the back? Makes sense to have them RWD then. |
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Yes all car magazines talk out of their ass just because you don't want to believe something doesn't make it true |
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= everything you read is true..apparently.
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18th September 2011, 22:31
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isnt this a picture thread?
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21st September 2011, 13:25
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back on track
cant call a car ''stripped' if it still has a dashboard
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21st September 2011, 18:51
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cant call a car ''stripped' if it still has a dashboard
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Looks neater than my effort...
Wonder whos is lighter
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21st September 2011, 19:23
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whore car!
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26th September 2011, 08:39
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Bumpy - Anyone else got any pictures.? Need some inspiration
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26th September 2011, 08:49
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I'll get some more up of mine when its actually painted and i've fitted my cf... lol.
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26th September 2011, 21:14
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Quote:
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back on track
cant call a car ''stripped' if it still has a dashboard
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seen it in reallife its awesome if you can stand the eye watering fumes lol
@ martin have you got used to that clutch after your epic trip 
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26th September 2011, 23:12
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love that dash... big time.
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