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29th April 2007, 23:02
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Mot checks!
ok so ive been looking at mot rules and regs because mine is in tomorrow and thought it might be a good idea to post this for future reference! this is what they will check for!
BRAKES
Inside the car
Anti-lock braking system (if fitted) Warning lamp is checked for:
Function.
Sequence of operation. Footbrake
Reserve travel on the footbrake so that it does not go down to the floor
Pedal rubber not worn to excess
Correct operation of the servo assistance system.
Reserve brake
This could be a handbrake or a footbrake.
Checked for reserve travel so that it does not reach the stops on application.
The mountings will be checked for security and /or corrosion.
Under bonnet checks
Master cylinder and servo unit are checked for fluid leaks with the engine on and the brakes applied.
Servo unit will be checked to ensure it is operating correctly.
Visible metal or flexible brake pipes will be checked for corrosion, condition, breakages or leaks.
Under Vehicle checks
With an assistant applying load to the
footbrake:
Flexible brake pipes and any other metal brake pipes visible beneath the car are checked
Disks and drums checked for condition and contamination
Brake back plates and calliper securing devices are checked for condition and security
Condition of the brake pads will be checked if visible
An assistant operates the handbrake while the condition of the linkages and/or cables is checked.
On some vehicles there will be a brake compensating valve beneath the car which will need to be inspected for fluid leaks
Brake performance check
The performance of the front and rear brakes will be checked for efficiency and balance using specialised equipment.
DOORS
Both front doors must be capable of being opened from the inside and outside and all doors must latch securely.
Tailgates, bootlids etc.
All these items, including the tailboards and dropsides of trucks must be capable of being secured in the closed position.
EMISSIONS
These are checked using specialised equipment, the details of the check depending on the year that the vehicle was first used on the road. Excessive smoking is a reason for failure. Diesel emissions are checked by using a smoke meter.
FUEL SYSTEM
Any fuel leak will result in a fail. Checked under the bonnet and throughout the run of the fuel line from the fuel tank to the engine.
The fuel filler cap must fasten securely
The seal in the cap must not be torn, deteriorated or missing
No other defect should be present which could cause fuel to leak out.
HORN
Operation.
Control should be easily reached by the driver.
Volume must be sufficiently audible to pedestrians and other vehicles.
The tone should not consist of a sequential multi-tone.
LIGHTS
All required lights are checked for:
Operation.
Condition.
Security.
Side lights and headlamps:
Acceptable make/model.
Dip and aim must be within specified perameters Stop lights, indicators and hazard lights*
Acceptable make/model
Lights,indicators and hazard lights must not interfere with each other whilst in operation.
Indicators, stop lights and hazard warning lights function. Rear fog lamps**
Must be fitted to the centre or offside of the vehicle.
Tell-tale must work.
Must not be affected by other lamps and not be obscured.
Must be red.
Number plate lamps
All original lamps must be fitted and working.
Rear reflectors
There must be two reflectors fitted reasonably symmetrically, securely attached and not obscured.
* Must be fitted to all vehicles first used on or after 1st April 1986, but if fitted, must be tested.
** Must be fitted to all vehicles first used on or after 1st April 1980.
MIRRORS
Not all mirrors on all vehicles are subject to Test, depending on the age of the vehicle. Those mirrors which must be checked must be:
Secure
Visible from the drivers seat
Not distorted or damaged so as to seriously impair the drivers view to the rear.
REGISTRATION PLATES AND VIN* (Vehicle Identification Number)
For registered vehicles the plate must be:
Present
Secure
Not faded, dirty or obscured
Be composed with correctly formed letters and spacing
The VIN number must be
Permanently displayed
Consistent · Legible.
* Required on all vehicles first used on or after 1st August 1980.
SEAT BELTS
Most vehicles after 1965 must have seat belts, irrespective of that requirement, all seat belts fitted to any vehicle must be inspected for:
Security of seat belt mountings and locking stalks
Security and operation of the locking/release mechanism
Condition of webbing
Retraction of the belt (it is permissable to manually feed it in).
Notes:
1 For technical reasons the inertia locking mechanism is not checked.
2 On some vehicles the belt is attached to the seat, in which case the security of the seat to the vehicle would also constitute part of the seat belt check.
SEATS
The driver's and the front passenger's seats must be secure
All seat backs must be securable in the upright position.
STEERING
Inside the car checks
Steering wheel and steering column:
Steering wheel condition
The steering wheel must be securely attached to the steering shaft
The upper bearings of the steering column are inspected for wear
The steering shaft is checked for excessive end float
Clamping bolts security
The split pins and locking nuts
The 'free play' in the steering
Flexible couplings and universal joints.
Under the bonnet checks
Vary according to the vehicle;
Some of these items cannot be observed from under the bonnet on some makes and models. However in all cases checks
will be made for:
The security of the steering rack or steering box and its mountings
Any discernible play in the steering joints
Swivel joints which form part of the steering system which can be readily inspected from under the bonnet will obviously be inspected.
Whilst the vehicle stands on special Swivel plates the wheels are turned from lock to lock and checked to ensure that wheels and tyres do not foul of either the structure of the vehicle or any brake pipes or hoses.
Wheel bearings are checked.
Steering rack gaiters/front outer constant velocity joint boots are examined.
Metal and rubber bushes are checked as
Under vehicle checks
All the steering joints.
Power steering systems.
Security of attachment of the steering rack or steering box is checked both with respect to tightness of the nuts and bolts, and structural cracking or corrosion of the vehicle chassis where it is attached.
Also, split pins/locking nuts and other locking or retaining devices relate to steering components. Some cars have an element of rear wheel steering which is checked from beneath the car. The front suspension is checked, but also the rear for:
Excessive wear to Wheel bearings.
Condition of front drive shafts/CV joints.
SUSPENSION
Under bonnet checks
Upper suspension joints
Any other suspension components which
can be inspected from beneath the bonnet
Under vehicle checks
Both the front and rear suspension are checked to ensure.
No split pins or nuts missing, no components broken or bent
Road springs function effectively, no excessive wear
Suspension joints function effectively, no excessive wear
Shock absorbers must not leak and must be secure (the vehicle will be 'bounced' by the Tester to check that they damp the springs adequately).
Suspension is checked for wear by the assistant applying loads in various ways with the wheels jacked up whilst the Tester observes the result from beneath the vehicle.
TYRES/WHEELS
Tyre condition
A failure with respect to tyre wear will result where:-
The grooves of the tread pattern are not at least 1.6mm throughout a continuous band comprising:
Central 3/4 of the breadth of tread
Entire outer circumference of the tyre.
Tyres must be correctly matched with regard to:
Type
Size
Structure
Location on the vehicle with respect to the axles.
Also examined:
General condition of tyre
Condition of valve
Tyres fail if they have serious cuts, bulges or other damage. The wear on the tyre is checked with a tyre tread depth gauge to ensure compliance. The tyres are examined to ensure that there is no fouling with any part of the vehicle.
Note:
The condition of the spare tyre is not part of the MOT.
Wheel condition
Inspection to reveal:
Damage
Distortion
Cracks
Distorted bead rims
How securely attached to the vehicle
No wheel-nuts or studs missing
An externally fitted spare wheel or spare wheel carrier must not be so insecure that it is likely to fall off.
VEHICLE STRUCTURE
Body condition and security
The vehicle body must not insecure or displaced so as to constitute a risk of loss of control of the vehicle when driven, or a danger to other road users.
There must be no dangerous sharp edges or projections caused by corrosion or damage
Corrosion
A vehicle can fail with respect to corrosion for:
Excessive corrosion in a 'prescribed area' - within 30 cms of certain components, e.g. brakes, steering, suspension, seat belt mountings etc.
Excessive corrosion in a 'prescribed area', but which is likely to adversely affect the vehicle's brakes or steering.
Note
'Excessive corrosion' can mean a hole or a significantly weakened structure.
WINDSCREEN
The inspection has to ascertain all items affecting the driver's view of the road: the condition of the windscreen, the wipers and washers.
hope this comes in handy.... i dont think this has been done before and apologise if it has!
james
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29th April 2007, 23:11
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PM a moderator mate and get them to make it a sticky.
Have some rep too
Good thread and very useful.
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10th May 2007, 18:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke
PM a moderator mate and get them to make it a sticky.
Have some rep too
Good thread and very useful.
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Yeah asap
nice thread mate, v useful
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10th May 2007, 18:47
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Whats this about though...
Tyres must be correctly matched with regard to:
• Type
• Size
• Structure
• Location on the vehicle with respect to the axles.
The tyres tyes DONT have to match! Like i have two of one brand on the front and two of another brand on the back, so thats a fail according to that?
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10th May 2007, 18:52
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jsut use the mot manual
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual/contents.htm
thats what i had to conform to when i was an mot tester
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10th May 2007, 18:54
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Yep so the guide that has been put up in this thread is WRONG!
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18th August 2007, 19:51
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No, the tyres are all to be the same size etc regardless of brand.
They should be Similar Specs, ie speed ratings and load ratings etc, and all the same size.
As far as i'm aware, Brand or tread pattern doesn't matter.
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29th August 2007, 10:52
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do you need to have a spare tyre for an mot?
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29th August 2007, 11:13
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No, However if its there, and its flat or bald, it will fail AFAIK
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15th September 2007, 10:12
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awsome stuff mines so soon pretty worried
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15th September 2007, 16:46
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Don't worry, mine just passed 
No spare wheel or anything too!
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15th September 2007, 17:01
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just a querie on this. where it says the mot test checks function for A.B.S do u mean that the warning light is functioning or the actual A.B.S system?
jus wanted to check as i had my vtr M.O.T'd on the 01/09/07 and on the 09/09/07 there was an accident in front of me on the motorway. which i would've been able to stop 4, had the wheels not locked up.
as a consiquence i no longer own a saxo vtr.
could someone let me kno please?
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24th September 2007, 13:20
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What happened Doc? They only have to check that the warning light is working and doesn't indicate any fault, they don't physically check the ABS system. You should pester the garage though and tell them what happened, maybe threaten them a bit, might give you some compo!
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13th December 2007, 12:40
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This is pretty much helpful for me seeing as mine runs out Jan08. Went for servicing last week and was told my exhaust was blowing in the middle. Could that fail the MOT?
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13th December 2007, 18:56
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Yeah may well fail, not all places will pick up on it though!
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23rd January 2008, 20:02
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brake fluid test
i know u can put ur foot brake in several times while ur engines off to check ur brake fluid if its ok it shud go hard and go soft again after ur turn the engine on
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23rd January 2008, 20:08
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I've also just found out that a car will pass with no drivers door window...
I've been given a free car and will MOT it before fixing it up, and it'll pass like it...
Pointless info really.. lol
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14th March 2008, 22:54
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ahhh mot, i officially hate them grrr,
put me wee saxo in for it 2days ago and said to the guy i need a bit of work on my handbrake, so he done it put it for the mot and it came back with loads to be done ended up...
- new brake pads
- new handbrake cable
- new shoes + adjusters
- work done on handbrake rachet
- new mid-section exhaust
- new passengerside susspension arm + bracket to the antiroll bar
- replacement of numberplate bulbs
- realignmet of headlights
- new piping round fuel filter
- new tyre
£350 later my saxo is mot'd, selling it v.soon aswell for a grand, makes me sick haha, i was truely ass invaded with no foreplay....
rant over :o)
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30th March 2008, 23:18
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The MOT cetificate is only issued to say that at the time that the certificate was issued, the vehicle met the requirements to pass the test.
You could get the MOT certificate, say at 10.00 and get down the road at say 10.05 and get pulled by the police for a brakelight bulb not working. Saying it's just been MOT'd won't mean a thing.
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2nd April 2008, 07:41
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hmmmm Good stuff
my M.O.T is not until july but i'll think i shall get my mate from the local garage to do a pre check
I dont fancy knocking out £350 all in one go
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