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1st October 2009, 13:41
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#1861
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Throttle bodies should come with a health warning!
****Warning**** Throttle bodies may cause immense amounts of stress, empty wallets, heartache and above all nothing but a kick in the teeth.
From the hassle it sounds your having and the mass’s amounts of hassle Kevin has had with his 172, is it really worth for the small margin of gain your going to get?
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1st October 2009, 13:57
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#1862
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please tell me it didnt take the piston out with it?!!
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1st October 2009, 14:13
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#1863
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I've no idea what's happened yet...  WIll update as soon as I do.
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1st October 2009, 14:20
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#1864
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oh shit, hopefully its all oki and not going to cost the earth... again.
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1st October 2009, 16:23
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#1865
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Can't believe it mate!!! I'm guessing you didn't take it upto the Wedding?
180bhp+ is a great result though, will be awesome when it's on the road!! Can only imagine the weapon it'll be on the track !!
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1st October 2009, 16:46
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#1866
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by leeroybrown
Throttle bodies should come with a health warning!
****Warning**** Throttle bodies may cause immense amounts of stress, empty wallets, heartache and above all nothing but a kick in the teeth.
From the hassle it sounds your having and the mass’s amounts of hassle Kevin has had with his 172, is it really worth for the small margin of gain your going to get?
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How many tbd engines run problem free though.
kevs is just issues in general with the engines, and toad seems to have had a bottom end which was in a bad state from when it was built originally.
Id say a 60-70bhp gain on an OE engine for a spec like toads is more than a small gain, and thats not even looking at the midrange and throttle response.
Toads just been very unlucky with this build.
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1st October 2009, 17:22
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Originally Posted by Ryan
How many tbd engines run problem free though.
kevs is just issues in general with the engines, and toad seems to have had a bottom end which was in a bad state from when it was built originally.
Id say a 60-70bhp gain on an OE engine for a spec like toads is more than a small gain, and thats not even looking at the midrange and throttle response.
Toads just been very unlucky with this build.
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I ran a throttlebodied car for a few years on the road without issue. As long as the fuelling is correct it is not going to make any difference.
In some ways having equal fuel and air to each cylinder will make it more reliable.
Shit happens occasionally though
Kev
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1st October 2009, 18:08
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sure you dont want my engine mate? 
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1st October 2009, 20:48
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#1869
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You gotta be kidding me
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1st October 2009, 21:28
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unlucky dude, hopefully it'll be sorted soon! Don't stress mate, it'll be fine. Who's building it?
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1st October 2009, 21:44
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#1871
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Good luck getting it sorted toad!
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1st October 2009, 21:52
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#1872
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Originally Posted by Lewisimo
unlucky dude, hopefully it'll be sorted soon! Don't stress mate, it'll be fine. Who's building it?
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pug1off.
Early reports from HQ were that a valve went down and has done alot of damage.
Guess dave will have more (hopefully better) info tomorow
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1st October 2009, 21:57
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#1873
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I really hope its good news Toad, doesnt seem you have had any luck with this car
Last edited by leeroybrown; 1st October 2009 at 22:03.
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1st October 2009, 22:03
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#1874
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Originally Posted by leeroybrown
Seems to be more and more on here....Pug1off, Pug performance..Pah yet to see one car thats lasts more then 700 mile from there. I know a local lad had his gti6 TB'd from PP and has nowt but hassle, bottom ends, head rebuilds the lot.
There has to be a point where enough is enough...
I really hope its good news Toad, doesnt seem you have had any luck with this car
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Thats less to do with bodies and more to do with incompetant builders then isnt it.
I could reel off a load of bodied engines over years which ran trouble free.
Including dan beadles PP engine.
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1st October 2009, 22:06
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Is there any competant engine builders out there these days, dare I say there is only still GMC?
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1st October 2009, 22:12
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Originally Posted by leeroybrown
Is there any competant engine builders out there these days, dare I say there is only still GMC?
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As a big brand GMC are still one of the most reputable companies out there, Ive lost count of the amount of fuck ups john has sorted on other peoples cars, but then again he will make mistakes to. Things happen but its how you deal with them and the customer thats important.
Plenty of local garages with skilled personel who can build a good engine.
For example craigs engine was built by a local garage, and the only real issues it had was him killing gearboxes doing 1/4miles, a coilpack failing and then a short on the alternator (which should have been sorted when he knew about it).
Theres lots of engines built by people on their own aswell in their own garages which run problem free.
Some companies have bad reputations and people still use them... its life.
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1st October 2009, 22:12
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#1877
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L-plater
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looking nice love the speedlines
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1st October 2009, 22:17
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#1878
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I have no idea who Craig is! I dont think
Anywhere what Toad go for bike bodies, ATW's or DTH?
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1st October 2009, 22:19
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#1879
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Quote:
Originally Posted by leeroybrown
I have no idea who Craig is! I dont think
Anywhere what Toad go for bike bodies, ATW's or DTH?
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Craig was vtr130, was originally black, then white. 808s with Jenvey SFs on omex.
Toad has ATP bodies, hes done it properly none of this bike tat 
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1st October 2009, 22:21
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#1880
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Unlike the rest of the engine...sounds like its given up!
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