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Old 12th September 2011, 21:46   #61
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The problem with a rear cage and buckets and harnesses is that if you do indeed roll over the front of the car by the windscreen will likely cave in and as you are fixed in place by your buckets and harnesses you can;t move so will get squished and probably paralysed.

Please feel free to correct me if im wrong. Is just what i hear on a lot of other sites
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yes and no, tbh all the cars ive seen roll on track have never really done "that" much damage, i know its a saxo and theyre made of cotton wool, but to plant the front in enough to do that then youd have to have been in some crash

not saying it couldnt or wouldnt happend, but a cage is not NEEDED on track, its not like im in a stage rally with possibilty of hitting a tree or cliff face etc.

good weld in half cage with custom side bars to strut turrets should do me fine for what i need

if i die then you can agree i made the wrong choice
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Old 12th September 2011, 22:28   #64
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lol fair one, im just concered about smashing sideways into the gravel or something silly... i got a full sd cage... was expensive but could be a life saver or a large amount of wasted money ahah
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Wtf!?!

Why would you fit the fuel tank there? And an acid battery with uncovered terminals right next to it?

All you've done is raised the centre of gravity and opened yourself up to becoming a potential human fireball in the event of an accident!

All that fuel slopping around that shallow tank isn't beneficial to handling either...

Honestly, if i was a scrutineer i wouldn't allow you on track with that set up, please refit the o/e tank for your own and any passengers safety.

Seriously, think what could happen is you got Liberace'd (rear ended) on a track day... it doesn't bear thinking about!
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i nearly posted about the amount of uncovered batteries in here earlier

its 40 quid for a box guys and a hell of a lot safer and it looks tidier too
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i nearly posted about the amount of uncovered batteries in here earlier

its 40 quid for a box guys and a hell of a lot safer and it looks tidier too
Why put something thats so heavy in the rear of the car unless you need space for turbo?
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i needed space, mines a temp measure till i decide where it need to go fully, then its getting a custom box made, im thinking behind passenger seat is best place atm

i wasnt planning on removing mine but was forced to when fitting i/c pipes
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Why put something thats so heavy in the rear of the car unless you need space for turbo?
To even the front to rear weight distribution perhaps??
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Wtf!?!

Why would you fit the fuel tank there? And an acid battery with uncovered terminals right next to it?

All you've done is raised the centre of gravity and opened yourself up to becoming a potential human fireball in the event of an accident!

All that fuel slopping around that shallow tank isn't beneficial to handling either...

Honestly, if i was a scrutineer i wouldn't allow you on track with that set up, please refit the o/e tank for your own and any passengers safety.

Seriously, think what could happen is you got Liberace'd (rear ended) on a track day... it doesn't bear thinking about!
Battery is now behind passenger seat, fuel tank is safe where it is, if it gets nudged the way its set up it will move forward.

Plans in Jan are to move it lower down. So many other people with aftermarket fuel tanks in the boot.
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i made them james...theres quite a few ppl interested in them tbh

and joe i just dont like the idea of adjustables, id prefer fixed, especially after what happened in my car the other day RE acclerating hard and the seat not clicking in properly...shot off to the back of the car and couldnt reach the pedals lol
Could make some money in the for sale section

They can't be that expensive to make, I would love to buy a pair tbh mate
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To even the front to rear weight distribution perhaps??
Whats that going to do exactly? Bugger all thats what!

You wat weight distribution buy an MR2 or something. 10kg in the back will do bugger all except maybe give you slightly less traction on the front.

Sure someone will pop up and disagree but unless you have the car setup and corner weighted will make f all difference
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Whats that going to do exactly? Bugger all thats what!

You wat weight distribution buy an MR2 or something. 10kg in the back will do bugger all except maybe give you slightly less traction on the front.

Sure someone will pop up and disagree but unless you have the car setup and corner weighted will make f all difference
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Battery is now behind passenger seat, fuel tank is safe where it is, if it gets nudged the way its set up it will move forward.

Plans in Jan are to move it lower down. So many other people with aftermarket fuel tanks in the boot.
Is the battery now in a box or does it at least have the terminals covered?

As you say, many other have tanks in the boot (inside the passenger compartment) but that doesn't make it ok, correct or safe... its dangerous and potentially lethal to the occupants of the car... have a good think about why you think you need to have the tank inside the car with you... you could at least fit a bulkhead around it to seperate the tank from the passenger compartment?

the words door, shut, horse and bolted spring to mind... It'll probably take someone getting burnt to death before things change, dont let it be you or any of your friends...
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Maybe but im pretty sure Ayrton bloody senna wouldn't notice the difference in the handling let alone a 'normal' person.
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A few kg's can make a world of difference.

Just having a car 'stripped' is probably worse than leaving the rear seats etc in.
All that weight just on the front obviously just makes it oversteer.. Evening it out, even a small bit will help.
Even weight distribution is where its at.. Look at Mx5's.. handle like they're on rails, because they're ni' on 50/50.
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Oh i know i just think that with an amateur trackday setup its a bit overkill and a lot of hassle for what its worth. I had a completely stripped rear etc and that oversteered but no where near as my current standard 1.4 106 does!
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My 106 next to never oversteers.

It did once...
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Haha also me


Thats from not knowing the track though
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