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4th October 2007, 12:43
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would it be possible for someone to make an adaptor loom to make if plug and play?
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4th October 2007, 12:46
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Don't see why not, but I'm not sure why you'd want that really...
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4th October 2007, 12:47
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Don't see why not, but I'm not sure why you'd want that really...
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how come? do you know any places around that will be able to fit it and map it?
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4th October 2007, 12:53
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It seems odd then that GMC are using the stock ECU and the KMS together to get around the fact that the coolant and oil temperature gauges cannot be viewed. There must be something else to this.
When I mentioned getting an Omex 600 to QEP, they told me the same thing, that I would lose the option of being able to display those gauges. So something is definately causing this issue...
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4th October 2007, 13:22
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my omex was on a 3 plug car before i had it if that helps, its all hard wired into the main car loom though, so not a simpple plug in and play. id speak to martin from tweeqd on here i know he did a wiring loom for a 16v rallye from scratch.
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4th October 2007, 13:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan
my omex was on a 3 plug car before i had it if that helps, its all hard wired into the main car loom though, so not a simpple plug in and play. id speak to martin from tweeqd on here i know he did a wiring loom for a 16v rallye from scratch.
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Did you lose the oil and coolant temperature gauges?
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Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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4th October 2007, 14:00
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Originally Posted by Toad
Did you lose the oil and coolant temperature gauges?
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not a clue as the engine is now not in a 3 plug car as they are ghey. my loom is now mixed into a few things into a single plug car. not had it running yet to test all the wiring.
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4th October 2007, 14:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan
my omex was on a 3 plug car before i had it if that helps, its all hard wired into the main car loom though, so not a simpple plug in and play. id speak to martin from tweeqd on here i know he did a wiring loom for a 16v rallye from scratch.
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how would u rate the omex mate?
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4th October 2007, 14:04
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how would u rate the omex mate?
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the cars not fully built so cant say, personally id go omex over kms, due to the many problems ive read from people running kms. Omex have been around alot longer and from being on different forums they seem popular on all marques of cars. emerald are also good espec as dave walker sells them irc and mapping is a tad cheaper
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4th October 2007, 14:09
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All I need is the answer to the temperature questions, and then I can decide which one to purchase.
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Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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4th October 2007, 14:12
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ring omex and ask them.
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4th October 2007, 14:18
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Toad
Whats drawing you to buying a OMEX?
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4th October 2007, 14:36
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Whats drawing you to buying a OMEX?
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couldnt find out some prices for emerald fitted to a 3plug could ya mate?
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4th October 2007, 14:41
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Prices for the ECU's etc are on Emeralds website
Basically any good engine work place i,e Hiflow heads, qep etc can you make you a harness mate with the Emeraly built into it
Think Hiflow do it for about £250
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4th October 2007, 15:03
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Quote:
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Toad
Whats drawing you to buying a OMEX?
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After I had the cylinder head changed in my car, I went to a motorsport place in Cheltenham (Mech Motorsport I think...) and they optimised my cam timing, and did a fantastic job. The chap doing the work was recommending the Omex 600 to me...
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Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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4th October 2007, 15:16
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Looked at any of the others on the market?
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4th October 2007, 15:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toad
After I had the cylinder head changed in my car, I went to a motorsport place in Cheltenham (Mech Motorsport I think...) and they optimised my cam timing, and did a fantastic job. The chap doing the work was recommending the Omex 600 to me...
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do they supply and fit the omex systems?
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4th October 2007, 15:23
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Only the KMS and the Omex 600 mate.
I can get whole lot done, including KMS DTH ITBs, by GMC for just under £3k including VAT. Can it be done cheaper with other parts, or people? I just don't know.
EDIT: This is with reference to Leeroy's post, lol.
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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4th October 2007, 15:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by samcook
do they supply and fit the omex systems?
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At the time, the chap told me they could wire up an Omex for me. But I hadn't looked into things much at that point in time, so i didn't have any of these questions to ask.
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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4th October 2007, 15:26
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Look into Emerald's mate
good bit of kit
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