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20th October 2007, 21:16
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As long as it's maintained properly and mapped properly then there shouldn't be any problems with reliability.
VTS engine would be better but I haven't got a hope in hell to do that until next summer.
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Originally Posted by NOSHERVTR
Yeh ok the smaller engines with a few "SELECT" mods may push up the performance a lil. I know you saying about the cars like the 1.4 gt turbo fiat and the other small engined cars with turbos toping the vtr/s but thats because they where built and designed like that. Think of the pressure your lil 1.1i engine will be under if you start messing with its main components like cams and ecu ect its more likely your pride and joy ( and it does look good by the way) will go bang under the strain so personally i wouldnt go der bud. think if you if could be dunno y didnt they design it like that in the first place, there is always a reason for not doing suming.
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20th October 2007, 21:24
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Sounds like an intersting idea. I've never heard of anyone messing so much with a 1.1 but as Del Boy says "He who dares wins"
If it fits before you start it up remember to turn the engine over a few times by hand, just incase a valve or 2 gets a bit too close to a piston.
But I dont see why it can't work should sound like a mean machine after anyway.
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20th October 2007, 21:29
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I reckon go for it and see lol. Havent got a clue if it will work. Could query
somebody like Pug1off or GMC about it for more details?
Then turbo it in summer like Sophies Bush?
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20th October 2007, 21:44
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ahem yes the guy who turbod the 1.1 would be me. Is fine engine wise but electrical problems right now.
tbh for now I would get a later VTR inlet bang that on and see how it goes, dunno if the cam will fit as not sure the cam bearing sizes are the same or not, it will go in and it will idle but it will be lumpy.
I wouldn't go to far with it tbh, reason I did mine was because virtually everything was cheap enough. Could always go a different route and stick bike bodies on it lol
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20th October 2007, 22:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by snewham
As long as it's maintained properly and mapped properly then there shouldn't be any problems with reliability.
VTS engine would be better but I haven't got a hope in hell to do that until next summer.
scott
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id wait to the summer then and collect some 16v cams and goodies. worth the wait then
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20th October 2007, 23:11
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I would think a change of inlet manifold would be a good next move.. get one off a 1.3 rallye.
the cams I'm not so sure would work. Get them and try ..
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20th October 2007, 23:55
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1.3 inlet wont fit port spacing is different remember. His is the newer type 3 stud top and 2 bottom and no the old 4 stuf op and 2 bottom
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21st October 2007, 00:42
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tbh mate unless its really really cheap you might as well put the money towards the vts conversion?
What were your figures at the wheels? as that is what the RR calculates the fly wheel figure from
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21st October 2007, 01:48
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Originally Posted by snewham
right I have the oppurtunity to get some cams on the cheap from a mate who is splitting his car. I'm not sure what kind they are but they for 8V VTR.
Now, I have a VTR 4-2-1 manifold already on the 1.1, the exhaust port spacing is identical, the block looks identical. Will the cams fit the 1.1? I have a feeling that I will.
Don't start spouting shit about not getting gains on a 1.1. It was just rolling roaded at 75.8 BHP which is 15.8 BHP above standard.
Obviously I'd get it remapped at same time, how much do you think I would gain?
cheers,
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Mate you have an 8V, in which case there is one cam, cam not cams
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23rd October 2007, 20:41
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Just a quick question dude even tho you probably give the car mega death I guess it is still alright on petrol?
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23rd October 2007, 22:15
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I think you should definately have a go at it mate. sounds like a good idea and well done for staying different...
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23rd October 2007, 22:23
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wats the point when its goin to be slow wat ever, theres no point wasting all that money on a remap when you can by a vts lump for 250 quid.
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23rd October 2007, 22:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ry_B
Mate you have an 8V, in which case there is one cam, cam not cams
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exactley wat i was thinkin
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23rd October 2007, 22:26
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Originally Posted by jayboy88
wats the point when its goin to be slow wat ever, theres no point wasting all that money on a remap when you can by a vts lump for 250 quid.
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Money is no issue to me to be honest, I'm just up for a challenge. I'm going to save for a VTS engine though instead of cams. I'll try a VTR inlet manifold though in the mean time as that's something I can pick up cheap.
scott
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23rd October 2007, 22:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ry_B
Mate you have an 8V, in which case there is one cam, cam not cams
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one camshaft with cams on it i thought
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23rd October 2007, 22:38
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drop da bomb y0
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23rd October 2007, 22:59
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as said well done for being different thats why u get in a magazine and other don't well dont mate
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23rd October 2007, 23:41
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I dont have a clue if it will fit tbh, but I think it would be worth the go. Do something different.
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23rd October 2007, 23:42
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I have a vtr cam sat on my drive probably a little rusty now but i imagine it has a wilder profile than the 1.1 can if it fits ill recover it and you can have it for free will need a rub down and soak in oil by now though
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2nd December 2009, 21:45
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Any news on this? very interested in doing the same! please get bk to me, thanks.
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