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27th May 2010, 20:07
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interested to find out the weight of the sunroof!!! I want rid of that regardless as the fecking thing leaks lol.
If having a car that looks anything like Colin or Lewismo's is gay then... lol
I love Lewismo's car! Im not gonna strip it to that extent i dont think but I can lose 40Kg just by removing some of my stereo lol
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27th May 2010, 20:13
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Car(s): 2000 phase 2 Saxo VTS Turbo 2000 Nissan 200sx S14a
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lippy
If having a car that looks anything like Colin or Lewismo's is gay then... lol
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it is gay if it doesn't see a track mate!
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28th May 2010, 10:15
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People who say it doesn't make a difference are talking sh*t.A mate's vtr fully stripped,dashboard out etc was overtaking a 106 gti on a very long straight on a trackday a few months ago.
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28th May 2010, 10:28
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Car(s): 2000 phase 2 Saxo VTS Turbo 2000 Nissan 200sx S14a
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trackjace
People who say it doesn't make a difference are talking sh*t.A mate's vtr fully stripped,dashboard out etc was overtaking a 106 gti on a very long straight on a trackday a few months ago.
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the difference made is minimal, obviously it makes a difference but the benefit you get isn't worth the sacrifice of a car that you make.
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28th May 2010, 10:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maddison_vts
the difference made is minimal, obviously it makes a difference but the benefit you get isn't worth the sacrifice of a car that you make.
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If you go on track a bit then yes it's worth it.Get where your coming from though
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28th May 2010, 22:19
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Car(s): ep3 civic, rwd vtec saxo W.i.p
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lippy
interested to find out the weight of the sunroof!!! I want rid of that regardless as the fecking thing leaks lol.
If having a car that looks anything like Colin or Lewismo's is gay then... lol
I love Lewismo's car! Im not gonna strip it to that extent i dont think but I can lose 40Kg just by removing some of my stereo lol
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The sunroof weighs 7kg mate.
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29th May 2010, 00:15
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#67
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Originally Posted by kevhoust
The sunroof weighs 7kg mate.
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is that the tubes, glass metal runners and everything? would have thought it would have been slightly more 
Still I guess if you replace it with a flat roof then youve prob lost 6.5 kgs 
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29th May 2010, 15:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lippy
is that the tubes, glass metal runners and everything? would have thought it would have been slightly more
Still I guess if you replace it with a flat roof then youve prob lost 6.5 kgs |
That is just for this bit here
 so removing the tubes and trimming down the metal that it sits into may save you a little more
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29th May 2010, 18:08
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Originally Posted by Plekumat
Just putted front seats
Maybe lightweight rims, bonnet, Plastic side windows, losing the spare tire etc.. |
wheel weight dosnt really matter when the car is in motion. i read somthing in redline/max power about it. and the only difference was stopping distance and light weight wheels wernt so great.
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30th May 2010, 00:05
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L-plater
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Afyon DC /Turkey
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Car(s): Citroen C2 1.6i VTR Sensodrive
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Dunno
but my friend had 17'' chrommed wheels on his Bora, and he changed 'em to 16'' steelies
He said car can move quicker and consumption has lowered than before ..
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30th May 2010, 02:58
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Car(s): Astra 2006 (55) 1.9 cdti 150 sri 192hp 322ftlb
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Eight saving
fibreglass bonnet
single bucket
removing all interior Inc door cards, dask etc saves about 30kg I think
also lightweight exhaust systems help. Also spare wheel and bits
plastic windows and rims will help
if your serious also cut bumper bars. Maybe a single wiper conversion if your really serious put the driver on a diet
Last edited by xxo0pko0xx; 30th May 2010 at 03:01.
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30th May 2010, 10:32
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Im 5 ft 4 and weigh 8 stone 5 at the moment and my fat content was measured recently at about 2% so that last one wont work for me lol
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30th May 2010, 10:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lippy
Im 5 ft 4 and weigh 8 stone 5 at the moment and my fat content was measured recently at about 2% so that last one wont work for me lol
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Your a frickin midget!
But on note, doesn't relocating battery fubar the weight distribution anyway, due to the block being heavy on one side, and the light gearbox on the other, having the battery over the gearbox helps weight distro...does it not?
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30th May 2010, 10:44
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Originally Posted by -Alex-
Your a frickin midget!
But on note, doesn't relocating battery fubar the weight distribution anyway, due to the block being heavy on one side, and the light gearbox on the other, having the battery over the gearbox helps weight distro...does it not?
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Exactly what i said early but no fooker bothered to listen. 
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30th May 2010, 12:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mischief
wheel weight dosnt really matter when the car is in motion. i read somthing in redline/max power about it. and the only difference was stopping distance and light weight wheels wernt so great.
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it does if you want to accelerate, turn or slow down. try a set of superleggeras 4.9 kilo in 15/7" wide.
not only will the brakes feel more effective (less momentum) but they will stay cooler (discs and pads will last longer) if you are clever with what rims you choose.
proper light wheels are where its at not all this team dynamic 6.1kilo crap 
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30th May 2010, 13:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sexy_gt
it does if you want to accelerate, turn or slow down. try a set of superleggeras 4.9 kilo in 15/7" wide.
not only will the brakes feel more effective (less momentum) but they will stay cooler (discs and pads will last longer) if you are clever with what rims you choose.
proper light wheels are where its at not all this team dynamic 6.1kilo crap |
 
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30th May 2010, 14:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mischief
wheel weight dosnt really matter when the car is in motion. i read somthing in redline/max power about it. and the only difference was stopping distance and light weight wheels wernt so great.
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Wheel weight makes a difference to suspension. You go over a bump and the suspensions gonna have to cope with this big heavy thing flailing about. Reducing the weight improves how the wheel sticks to the ground on a slightly bumpy surface.
If it didn't make a difference why would touring cars have magnesium alloy wheels?
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30th May 2010, 14:27
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#78
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When I had my car corner weighted it was pretty well balanced been as I've never done sod all to aid it !
My battery is relocated into the boot ! And I have no issues !
My car was stripped when I bought it so I didn't have much choice!
I certainly want to go lighter! I know of a 205 who has taken a whole cutter to his inner rear to save weight lol !
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30th May 2010, 14:32
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it didn't have any seats did it if i remember rightly
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30th May 2010, 14:37
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The best way to do it is to strip the car out, then go to a professional to get the car corner weighted. For perfectly neutral handling you want 50/50 weight distribution but id say its near on impossible with a saxo lol, so the person doing it would set it up as close to perfect as he could.
As for wheels, sprung mass being reduced means the suspension doesnt have to work as hard to keep the tyre in contact with the ground. You also get more responsive steering and faster acceleration. Although the 4 kilos you save putting lightweight wheels on, people often add on again by fitting bigger brakes, so this whole lightweight wheel thing isnt something you should loose sleep over.
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