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23rd January 2011, 14:32
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Originally Posted by Tyanu888
lol wasnt sure, imagine 190 at the wheels.....mmm! lol!
Yes i have solid cam followers! Done a whole season last year and worked fine! It was testing year, now this year is winning year! 
back to Sexy_GT's query, i think you lost bhp because of the high mileage, probably new rings will give you a much better result. What do you think Andy? |
i dont think the dyno result was correct. this is with the same engine 4 trackdays later. pulls strong!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zIBKPAJ7-A
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10th February 2011, 08:18
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Malta
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Car(s): Citroen Saxo VTS (hill climb racer), Citroen AX Gt
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The difference is minimal once rings are changed but i would really try another dyno! Nice video! Cars sounds very good and powerful! You have a high ratio gbox i hear, right? Good driving! Congrats!
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10th February 2011, 08:24
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#103
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Car(s): Citroen Saxo VTS (hill climb racer), Citroen AX Gt
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPEeuyi2RXA
This is my onboard in a local hill climb last Nov! Very low ratiod! 159bhp at the wheel!
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10th February 2011, 16:59
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#104
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Originally Posted by Tyanu888
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seen it already, my box is a vts with a quaife. i have been thinking of a quaife short gear kit but unsure at the moment.
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10th February 2011, 17:24
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My 53 plate vts with 60,000k and a piper backbox and induction kit got me 125.9bhp.
Quite a strong engine 
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10th February 2011, 17:25
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#106
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yer mate a quiafe gear set very nice good way to spend alot of money at once 
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10th February 2011, 18:28
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#107
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tell me about it. very expensive.
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10th February 2011, 18:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sax-Lee
My 53 plate vts with 60,000k and a piper backbox and induction kit got me 125.9bhp.
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At the wheels ?
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10th February 2011, 18:49
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Think that the flywheel figures
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12th February 2011, 18:56
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#110
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car is booked in at Aw tracksport friday 18th. debating weather to get the car rolled or not. dont want to be getting hung up on figures...
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13th February 2011, 11:21
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Personally I dont like rolling road figures as the only means of determining power. Is your car comparably as fast as others with similar mods? If so dont worry about it...
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13th February 2011, 18:22
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today at cadwell im hitting 112 where as before i was only just 105 mph (park straight). could be more if it wasnt damp.
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13th February 2011, 18:28
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Solihull
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Car(s): Mk2 140bhp Vts
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Mk1 vtr with 96k 421 mani with full system decat and enclosed filter with rally s1 box. 109bhp and flywheel is that good?
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18th February 2011, 13:40
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#114
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Just has the car on a dyno.
708 cams
at bodies
330 injectors
saxsport
milltek manifold
105hp atw =131 fly.
This was maped with a predator by andy .h using standard timing. Cams need dialing.in and remapping.
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18th February 2011, 14:08
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105hp atw....
(105+10)/0.9 = 128bhp fly
I don't think so. We've all seen the vid's, that's not 128bhp.
Take it somewhere else mate
Andy
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18th February 2011, 16:17
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after i had my run a mate was there waiting to put his c2 vts on the rollers.
C2 spec (stock hatch car)
4branch manifold (so its decatted too)
aftermarket exhaust system
cams,inlet,air filter areall standard.
his car made 98whp at 6,500 mine was 105@ 6,500 and droped to 102@7,000.
after a conversation with gmc, john thinks the C2 is reading very low too as the decat manifold alone can give 17hp. this is turning out to be a serious LOL.
after som advice on the phone about how to set up the dyno (matching engine revs to dyno speed) i asked the operator how it was set up... i asked "what rpm did you use to match the roller speed" his reply was "i know what you mean but we dont do it that way". i replied a 11hp gain over standard from cams, itb,s remap and new 330cc injectors!???
pictures to follow....
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Last edited by sexy_gt; 18th February 2011 at 16:37.
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18th February 2011, 16:36
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this is how its straped down, handbrake on and x2 straps to stop it going side to side. nothing to stop it going forward other than handbrake.
i did get offered a cuppa tea tho and yes i look like a tool in that hat but it was freezing!
taken during the run
old school technology
with the 105whp figure given some of you may say wheres your printout? there isnt one, well theres this...
followed by the equasion
also want sure if i had wheelspin, if the rollers were innacurate or if they wasnt set up right but the C2 that went on after me had shit covered tyres. mine were the same from driving through the yard to get there.
i have to admit with the wheels rolling some sort of fluid was sprayed on them to clean them up before the run.
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Last edited by sexy_gt; 18th February 2011 at 16:39.
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18th February 2011, 17:31
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#118
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so at 6500rpm, the car was making 86lbsft of torque?
Hehehe!!!
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18th February 2011, 17:42
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#119
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: ESSEX
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Car(s): 106 GTi Turbo
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wow the old sun ram12 road-a-matic, the old man had one of those in the 80s!!
do you think i need to update my facilities?
- colin
Last edited by atspeedracing; 18th February 2011 at 17:44.
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18th February 2011, 18:04
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#120
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Telford
Posts: 4,501
Car(s): Black corsa c SXI.
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how much does it cost to be done nowadays?
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