Matt's Evo VI - 380Bhp/415 lb/ft - Page 11 - Saxperience

Yates · 29th December 2013, 11:14

Matt it looks dog shit. Evo needs fuck a doing to it. Stop it.

matt_vtr_15a · 29th December 2013, 11:33

haha never seen 4 bolts cause such conflict, absolute marmite so it seems majority of ehich seemingly hate it.

Yates · 29th December 2013, 12:19

No everyone hates it they just don't dare say

Viper · 29th December 2013, 13:13

Bonnet raisers are gay.

josh11490 · 29th December 2013, 13:14

Don't see why all the hate, doesn't look terrible, not something I would do but if they were on a car I had I'd be in no rush to remove them...

Proper love this car, I'm determined to own an evo one day, always loved them.

Nik_L · 29th December 2013, 16:27

You had a perfect base and it dosn't need much more, if anything, done cosmetically. It now looks like you are doing things for the sake of it with no real gains. Trying too hard.

Plenty others running much more power with no need to raise the bonnet.

matt_vtr_15a · 31st December 2013, 16:45

Finally.

Booked in for 10am this Friday for the SD conversion and remap, also recieved my maf delete pipe which I got made up by an MLR member so the MAF can be completely removed ridding it of any restriction.

Not dwelling on the bonnet raisers, it's a matter of 4 bolts and i'm undecided so just going with them for now; all of 5mins work to switch them back when I realise there not for me, but the general vibe is that there very turd.

matt_vtr_15a · 3rd January 2014, 19:30

Well just got home after having the SD conversion with switchable maps, absolute love it and it has transformed my car completely.

The SD really is much better than MAF I had previously, I can put the car in 4th gear at low speed and no jerkiness whatsoever whereas previously there would of been the odd stutter. Idle is absolute bang on 1k now to whereas at was previously hunting.

Antilag launch control is just class and I had an ideal oppurtunity to play with it alongside an M3.. not eomething I will use a deal as it can eat clutches alive if overused but great fun now and then if something worthwhile has a play.

Pops and bangs mapped in, they have been mapped to kick in above 4k on my higher boost map, let off above 4k and it sounds like a thunderstorm and lights up the night sky.

Couldn't be happier also got some decent results on dyno, as I expected but decent nevertheless.

Low Boost (1.2 bar) 315bhp with matching torque
High Boost (1.6 bar) 380.1bhp with 370 torque.

Long day driving and hanging around so I'm chilling now for the night, will get up some pics etc. in due course.

matt_vtr_15a · 5th January 2014, 20:48

Couple of pics of the work involved...

Map sensor wiring

MAF Delete

The MAF that was removed

wullvfr · 5th January 2014, 21:45

Good stuff

Sounds like a good set up,if I had an evo its something I'd like with regards to the two settings,not over the top but ideal for a road car.

You need to get a vid of the pops and bangs,something I love to hear.

Killin1's evo sounds feckin unreal and I remember seeing it go through all the stages from std evo to what it is now,I could hear it from the house and it was like thunder,even heading out the road I could hear it for miles.

matt_vtr_15a · 6th January 2014, 00:26

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Originally Posted by wullvfr

Good stuff

Sounds like a good set up,if I had an evo its something I'd like with regards to the two settings,not over the top but ideal for a road car.

You need to get a vid of the pops and bangs,something I love to hear.

Killin1's evo sounds feckin unreal and I remember seeing it go through all the stages from std evo to what it is now,I could hear it from the house and it was like thunder,even heading out the road I could hear it for miles.

In theory it's really handy but if I'm honest I've not got out of the higher boost setting yet ha. Done a couple of launches but I've banned myself now as you can slightly smell clutch after a launch tand I don't fancy replacing that or the turbo anytime soon. I was aware this would be the case but rather have it mapped in and avoid using it than not have it.

The pop and bangs get more frequent the more I run it in as the sas system has been redundant for some time so likely clogged up and as it clears it gives bigger pops and bangs. System works well as the pops and bangs are mapped in to a set rev limit so cruiaing along on the motorway I'm not constantly banging unless I decide I want to by dropping a gear.

Already been handy to get some white van man off my bumper at some traffic lights, didn't get close at the second set.

Will get some clips up soon, the weather hasn't really allowed this weekend.

matt_vtr_15a · 7th January 2014, 00:24

In the hunt for a few more bangs I removed the two sas banjo bolts and drilled them out this evening.

The banjo bolts on the evo vi are only 1-2mm so I removed them drilled them out to about 5-6mm and put them back into the sas system.

Bigger diameter sas bolts...

which lead to this to get a quick clip which I shall put up shortly...

matt_vtr_15a · 7th January 2014, 00:33

Flames on antilag launch but otherwise the pops and bangs don't flame until the exhaust is pretty hot, was only out 15mins to do thi video so didn't get up to flaming temperature on overun, gives an idea though like a machine gun on overun but as it gets hotter get some big bangy flamey ones.

matt_vtr_15a · 8th January 2014, 11:55

Currently looking into altering the final drive, been doing some of the calculations based on the standard gear ratios of the 5 speed box. Nothing I can really do engine wise now until I go for the drop in/rod job with cams and an upgraded turbo which is a BIG investment and something I'm definitely putting off now until next year.

I have the bug massively and can't help but look at things to do to it, been looking into the drivetrain side of things and I'm really tempted to change the final drive to increase the torque a bit more, acceleration but obviously at the cost of top end speed.

Really tempted to go for the 4.928 Final Drive as below, I entered in all the ratios to show the before and after graph if I was to change the final drive and it would be very liveable for road use for me.

I mainly use the car on B-roads etc. which this would suit very well.

Managed to wangle 20% discount should I wish to go ahead with it and my dad will do the labour free of charge.

Blue Line obviously being the proposed final drive. Could in theory push my torque up to 450 which would make a massive difference.

Jamie · 8th January 2014, 12:15

Nice Evo mate,

I'm not for or against the bonnet raisers really, I personally wouldn't have them but I don't think they look terrible.

Good fast progress, I bet it's rather savage @380 bhp!

matt_vtr_15a · 8th January 2014, 12:43

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Originally Posted by Jamie

Nice Evo mate,

I'm not for or against the bonnet raisers really, I personally wouldn't have them but I don't think they look terrible.

Good fast progress, I bet it's rather savage @380 bhp!

Cheers mate,

Pulls much much stronger I must say, the torque helps to, I misread my printout, it's around 415-420lb ft of torque at the moment will get a graph up soon.

Bonnet raisers were just an off the cuff thing, they make it look more aggressive imo.

I'm removing them this weekend though I think, the map sensor and wiring is right at the back of the engine bay, i've been checking it to ensure it isn't getting wet with all this rain and it isn't, but it is not something worth risking so the bonnet raisers are coming off.

matt_vtr_15a · 8th January 2014, 20:30

Just thought I'd bang up the graph, the blip at 3800rpm couldn't be mapped out, it was present on the previous graph when put on dyno by the last owner. Can't feel it on the road so can't say I'm too fussed about it, just baffling as to what it may be.

matt_vtr_15a · 10th January 2014, 13:32

Booked on for Bedford GT next weekend and i think my cousin is bringing his vts track toy....

Might see some of you fuckers there if anyone is going?

And recieved my mlr calender and most recent evolution issue, tasty!

wullvfr · 10th January 2014, 15:43

How far you going with this mate,in terms of end power both bhp/torque???

380bhp must be lively on the roads but still useable,what would you class as still useable but not OTT?

Changing the final drive sounds beneficial,its not like you'll miss the top end especially as you say on B roads.

I wonder how much quicker it will feel to 100?

matt_vtr_15a · 10th January 2014, 15:55

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Originally Posted by wullvfr

How far you going with this mate,in terms of end power both bhp/torque???

380bhp must be lively on the roads but still useable,what would you class as still useable but not OTT?

Changing the final drive sounds beneficial,its not like you'll miss the top end especially as you say on B roads.

I wonder how much quicker it will feel to 100?

Well they claim it raises torque by 10-15% so final drive alone could see the car at 450 torque + and rise thru the gears very quickly, very handy to power out of corners etc. but less handy for terminal speed which is not something that interests me. It's not like it would hit top speed down a drag strip so it's no massive bother.

I was having this very discussion with Lee who remapped my car, he is heavily involved in the sprint series which are road going cars which drive to track, partake in the series and drive home... This is what i'm aiming for with my car

Majority of these cars run between 450/500bhp which is perfect for fast road competitive use.

To reach those figures is fairly easy, cams and bigger turbo.

The standard transmission can cope with that figure to and I have a twin plate clutch which suits this figure also. I would just need to do a drop in/rod job or fully forge the engine.

Fortunately I have the 5speed box which is much stronger than the 6speed and capable of 500bhp all day long.