Conversion Question

[-Alex-]

Hey all, I have a couple of un-answered questions on my conversion that I am abit foggy on, after hunting through the forums. Basically I am going from 1.1 8v to 1.6 8v, both from same year, both 3 plug, so far so good
Basically I had somewhere got mistaken along the lines of the sale, and thought rad and shafts were included, so here are my questions:

Will the 1.1 shafts fit the R gearbox, I'm assuming they do not and I will need new shafts or a box swap?

Will the 1.1 rad suffice a very small drive, asin 10 miles a day at low speeds in case I cannot get one in time?

Is the 1.1 mounts the same as the VTR engine mounts?

Also the ECU including, has been said to be unlocked but he's not sure, so I have the transponder, ignition barrel ect, to test the ecu if it is locked or not, could I simply unlock the 1.1 ecu (just in case) and swap to the vtr and try crank it?

Thanks everyone!!

[ryanmt]

the shafts will fit but will probably leak.

The rad will be fine, even when used in anger. I dont think the vtr one is any bigger?

[-Alex-]

Originally Posted by ryanmt

the shafts will fit but will probably leak.

The rad will be fine, even when used in anger. I dont think the vtr one is any bigger?

Ah right, might aswell do the job right, will just bolt the 1.1 box to the R engine then
Oh I see that answers them questions, anyone know the rest?
Cheers

[-Alex-]

Anyone?

[chris_rolling]

id have kept the 1.1 box

[-Alex-]

Originally Posted by chris_rolling

id have kept the 1.1 box

Still got the 1.1 box, which I will probably keep now tbh

Anyone know my last two questions?
Is the 1.1 mounts the same as the VTR engine mounts?

Also the ECU including, has been said to be unlocked but he's not sure, so I have the transponder, ignition barrel ect, to test the ecu if it is locked or not, could I simply unlock the 1.1 ecu (just in case) and swap to the vtr and try crank it?

[jeffchiz]

you will need vtr mounts, my mate used 1.1 on mounts on his vts, it worked but i wouldn't trust it at all lol

ecu wise just fit the engine and the vtr ecu (with the 1,1 imobiliser removed) see if it works if its doesn't then just fit the pick up ring and new imobiliser

[-Alex-]

Originally Posted by jeffchiz

you will need vtr mounts, my mate used 1.1 on mounts on his vts, it worked but i wouldn't trust it at all lol

ecu wise just fit the engine and the vtr ecu (with the 1,1 imobiliser removed) see if it works if its doesn't then just fit the pick up ring and new imobiliser

Just thinking now though, they are the same engine in theory aren't they?

When you say pickup ring do you mean the ignition barrel?

[Ax_beefy]

Yes he does mate

[-Alex-]

Originally Posted by Ax_beefy

Yes he does mate

He does

[jeffchiz]

well around the ignition barrel there should be plastic ring connected to the loom, thats the only thing you really need to replace

actually im just thinking dont you need to weld on a different engine mount or something to fit a vtr engine in to a 1.1?

[-Alex-]

Originally Posted by jeffchiz

well around the ignition barrel there should be plastic ring connected to the loom, thats the only thing you really need to replace

actually im just thinking dont you need to weld on a different engine mount or something to fit a vtr engine in to a 1.1?

Ohh right, I'll go have a look now
Oh don't be saying things like that!!!

[-Alex-]

Is the 1.1 mounts the same as the VTR engine mounts?

Getting abit worried now if I have to organize someone to come weld a mount on, or will the 1.1 mount work?!

[ryanmt]

The pickup ring isnt coded, you can leave that as is.

[-Alex-]

Cheers mate do you do the VTR ecu unlocking aswell?

[LeeM]

youve got to use the 1.1 mount on the vtr bracket for the ecu mount i think.
to fit your drivers side shaft you'll have to remove the bracket for the intermediate bearing off the back of the vtr engine block, its a silver ring bolted on that will get in the way of the shaft as its 1 piece on the 1.1

[GTuff]

jus get everything off the bigger car rad etc will be worth it unless they are shagged

[jeffchiz]

i dunno if you mounts are the same as the 1.0 but take a look at this http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...=84693&page=46
post number 915

[-Alex-]

Originally Posted by LeeM

youve got to use the 1.1 mount on the vtr bracket for the ecu mount i think.
to fit your drivers side shaft you'll have to remove the bracket for the intermediate bearing off the back of the vtr engine block, its a silver ring bolted on that will get in the way of the shaft as its 1 piece on the 1.1

Cheers mate, atm I think I can get away with the 1.1 mount, after closer inspection and speaking to J222JRA, I think it should hole till I decide to fit all new bushes
Ah right Will get rid of that over the weekend, as I hopefully will paint it, so just swap that part from the part on the 1.1 engine?

Originally Posted by GTuff

jus get everything off the bigger car rad etc will be worth it unless they are shagged

Cheers mate, nearly got everything now anyway

Originally Posted by jeffchiz

i dunno if you mounts are the same as the 1.0 but take a look at this http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...=84693&page=46
post number 915

Cheers mate, much appreciated, but I think now that if I was going to 16v it, that's when I will have the issues

[jeffchiz]

oh right ok mate, took me like an hour to find that post lol haha