Torsion bars - Saxperience

gavin_d · 27th October 2013, 19:05

Hi guys, could anybody shed any light on what torsion bar set up you use, size and make.

Many thanks

sexy_gt · 27th October 2013, 19:42

23mm performance torsion.

gavin_d · 27th October 2013, 19:53

Sweet thanks, one more little question how can you tell the mk1 and mk2 blocks apart ive done a search but cant find much, i can tell the heads apart. Thanks

sexy_gt · 27th October 2013, 20:12

There is (know im going to be corrected here lol) 3 type vtr engine

Early single plug ecu black top vtr 90bhp

99 year vtr single plug ecu silver top 90bhp both these have metal spin on oil filters.

2000+ vtr 3plug ecu silver top 98bhp.... this one has a plastic oil filter relocated near thermostat.

gavin_d · 27th October 2013, 20:24

hmmm i need to find a mk1 head and mk2 bottom end. Thanks for the info been great help.

gavin_d · 27th October 2013, 20:26

Oh i was going to come and see you at cadwell today but forgot i was going to be painting the workshop floor lol. Only took all weekend like. How did you get on.

sexy_gt · 27th October 2013, 20:30

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Originally Posted by gavin_d

Oh i was going to come and see you at cadwell today but forgot i was going to be painting the workshop floor lol. Only took all weekend like. How did you get on.

Cough* got about 10 laps... see my blog.

I have a spare mk2 vtr engine for sale pm me.

jpsaxo · 29th October 2013, 11:44

I use 22mm bars

Jimmy-Boy · 30th October 2013, 18:42

same as me 22mm bars.

AlexB^p · 30th October 2013, 18:46

Torsion bars relate to your front spring rate to balance the car front to rear

I run 23mm bars but untill we know your front setup we cant advise what you should get

Dave_P · 30th October 2013, 18:52

Just buy 23's, they're still soft but hey ho.

slammed106 · 31st October 2013, 10:43

Save a bit more money and get the satchell rear setup imo..

Dave_P · 31st October 2013, 13:11

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Save alot more money and get the satchell rear setup imo..

That's more like it.

gavin_d · 3rd November 2013, 18:43

Hi guys thanks for all the advice. I will be having the standard front shocks re done by GAZ suspension with i think 300lb rated front springs with rear gaz shocks. This is for the 750mc stock hatch.

Would i be looking at 23mm rear bars for this set up.

Thanks guys!!!

sexy_gt · 3rd November 2013, 19:48

Interesting to hear gaz will rebuild your old standard shocks. Will they be made adjustable like their own or just matche to springs.?

I am 300lbs fronts and 23mm rear bars

No front arb.

Was previously 24mm rear arb but recently tryed a 22 rear but didnt get enough track time to make a judgement.

gavin_d · 3rd November 2013, 21:44

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Originally Posted by sexy_gt

Interesting to hear gaz will rebuild your old standard shocks. Will they be made adjustable like their own or just matche to springs.?

I am 300lbs fronts and 23mm rear bars

No front arb.

Was previously 24mm rear arb but recently tryed a 22 rear but didnt get enough track time to make a judgement.

Yea you have too for the regulations as they have to be of a standard set up, they redo them with adjustable damping rates and 1 degree of camber. You are not aloud to have adjustable ride height. Ive rang GAZ and they said thats what they do for all the 750mc stock hatch cars (the ones that use GAZ) Also you have to keep the anti roll bar standard and connected.

Dave_P · 4th November 2013, 10:13

I'd also recommend a smaller quiksilver front ARB, I tried it with no ARB but it lifted the inside rear wheel miles off the ground... And that was with 350lb front springs.

sexy_gt · 4th November 2013, 13:18

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Originally Posted by Dave_P

I'd also recommend a smaller quiksilver front ARB, I tried it with no ARB but it lifted the inside rear wheel miles off the ground... And that was with 350lb front springs.

Yep hence im trying a rear 22 rather than 24. Felt good but never had chance to have a real push

gavin_d · 4th November 2013, 20:00

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Originally Posted by Dave_P

I'd also recommend a smaller quiksilver front ARB, I tried it with no ARB but it lifted the inside rear wheel miles off the ground... And that was with 350lb front springs.

I have to keep it standard for the stock hatch

Love your 106 looks ACE

AlexB^p · 6th November 2013, 17:53

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Originally Posted by sexy_gt

Interesting to hear gaz will rebuild your old standard shocks

having previously fitted a set of the gaz stock hatch they arent actually OE dampers
they are OE legs and the dampers are made into them as one piece and the hubs modded for camber

the regs say the standard spring pans need to be retained