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27th February 2012, 09:00
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Cheers, 160 is a very good weight for your body weight.
You weigh what I do when i compete and not many lads reach 150 let alone 160.. 180/180 seems low when you look at lads who compete but I bet not many get near your lifts in your gym as they are infact very good lifts.
Most guys you see aspire to a 180 Deadlift and a 100kh squat lol..
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this bit got me? do they really? i can dead 220 now, at 91kg and squat probs around 180 now, but my bench is total shite, be lucky to get near 120 these days.
back has always been my strong part tho :/ not sure why.
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27th February 2012, 11:22
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Also just realised. Was the guy spotting you your trainer? He should haven noticed your positioning.
Shame on him.
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Beastiallity... They're always blowing seals. Ba-dum-tssh!
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27th February 2012, 11:43
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Also just realised. Was the guy spotting you your trainer? He should haven noticed your positioning.
Shame on him.
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No spotter on the deadlift... why would anyone need a spotter for daedlift?
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27th February 2012, 11:48
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Ahh right, I thought I remembered an old guy being behind him in all of them.
I know it's not one you would necessarily need one for but if it was a coach then he would be there for each exercise.
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27th February 2012, 11:49
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it helps for that extra push, its always better to have a help on the last lift, than to fail on it. if we're in gym in 3's 2 folks always take an end on the big lifts.
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Originally Posted by dondan
Scot ish was a beast 4-5 years ago, and he has increased his beastness quite a bit since then I bet
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I've seen pics of him and he's like Ayres Rock with tattoos.
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27th February 2012, 17:26
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The form is good on deadlift until i get it just above my knees where it sticks and i have to rench it up my leg.
That would be borderline a fail at a comp as its not "clean", if you listen i even say "that wasnt clean" on the video..
The guy spotting me on bench and seen in the deadlift video is a training partner, i train with a few guys..
The guy spotting me on squat is an ex world champion and 80 years old still pulling 190kg on the dead.
@Scotish, your strong mate very strong. Average joe on the street would dream of the lifts i mentioned.
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27th February 2012, 18:13
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Originally Posted by MiniGibbo
The guy spotting me on squat is an ex world champion and 80 years old still pulling 190kg on the dead.
@Scotish, your strong mate very strong. Average joe on the street would dream of the lifts i mentioned.
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I dunno what you mean by average joe though? surely some1 thinking about deadlifts would be in training? I'm probably the shittest out of the 6 or 7 boys a train with, 4 juice, 3 natural. my bench is deffo the lowest, and the juicers all dead more than me, and my squat is prob worst from everyone.. but they are all 98kg min, and deffo not as fat as me.
we have a world champ guy in our gym who's 70 odd, bill, bench's 175 or 180 still, right strong old cunt, can hardly walk but throws the bar about like theres no tomorow.
think i might come to glasgow when yer competing when im home, just for a nosey at it all, cos my form is probably pish as well.
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Scot ish was a beast 4-5 years ago, and he has increased his beastness quite a bit since then I bet
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I've seen pics of him and he's like Ayres Rock with tattoos.
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27th February 2012, 20:54
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By average joes i mean what we call "blurs" the guys you see who go regularly but never get stronger or put on size,
When ever they ask for advice they generally seem to dream of a 180kg Deadlift and treble figure bench..
Yeah come along lad it's a national level comp so will be a good show!
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27th February 2012, 21:13
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Originally Posted by MiniGibbo
By average joes i mean what we call "blurs" the guys you see who go regularly but never get stronger or put on size,
When ever they ask for advice they generally seem to dream of a 180kg Deadlift and treble figure bench..
Yeah come along lad it's a national level comp so will be a good show!
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180kg deadlift........shit son I need to train harder....
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27th February 2012, 21:50
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What can you Deadlift?
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28th February 2012, 04:25
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What can you Deadlift?
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110kg for 8 on a good day...got a mega glass back.lol.strong everywhere else just my deadlifts shit.
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28th February 2012, 09:47
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110kg for 8 on a good day...got a mega glass back.lol.strong everywhere else just my deadlifts shit.
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Try doing less than 8 though, 110kg isn't your max... he was asking what your max was
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28th February 2012, 11:10
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Try doing less than 8 though, 110kg isn't your max... he was asking what your max was
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Oh right I always aim to do eight....unless I'm squatting big kg's then I'll drop to 5 on my last set.
So youre max is just 1 rep at the heaviest possible weight?is that not a bit pointless unless competing? I'm not being funny btw just asking.
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28th February 2012, 11:24
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Oh right I always aim to do eight....unless I'm squatting big kg's then I'll drop to 5 on my last set.
So youre max is just 1 rep at the heaviest possible weight?is that not a bit pointless unless competing? I'm not being funny btw just asking.
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Well no, it's generally an accepted way of overloading and increasing strength, which is good. Gibbo competes in powerlifting though... You seem to be training to increase muscle mass.
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28th February 2012, 11:36
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If I may give some advice, you should wear knees straps when deadlifting that much. High risk of popping your ligaments regardless of how much your muscles can pull tbh.
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28th February 2012, 12:04
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Well no, it's generally an accepted way of overloading and increasing strength, which is good. Gibbo competes in powerlifting though... You seem to be training to increase muscle mass.
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Im trying to train for strength but lower reps does nothing for me.I don't get that "pumped" feeling like I do with higher (8-10) reps...
Am going to give the 1 rep max a shot tho.reckon I could hit 140kg deadlift n my squat should be good to.
With regards to bench iv been using chains for the last 6 months does anyone else use these?I find them fucking awesome for inner pecs especially with a good 20kg chain
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28th February 2012, 12:25
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Im trying to train for strength but lower reps does nothing for me.I don't get that "pumped" feeling like I do with higher (8-10) reps...
Am going to give the 1 rep max a shot tho.reckon I could hit 140kg deadlift n my squat should be good to.
With regards to bench iv been using chains for the last 6 months does anyone else use these?I find them fucking awesome for inner pecs especially with a good 20kg chain
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Only thing a chain will do is increase the weight the higher you push... Shouldn't affect where it hits the muscle.
You probably wont feel a pump, but the pump is only the blood filling with muscle I think. Strength is all to do with making the connection between mind and muscle stronger. If you're constantly going heavier, then that is what will make you stronger, going beyond your capability.
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28th February 2012, 12:33
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Originally Posted by Dave_E30
Only thing a chain will do is increase the weight the higher you push... Shouldn't affect where it hits the muscle.
You probably wont feel a pump, but the pump is only the blood filling with muscle I think. Strength is all to do with making the connection between mind and muscle stronger. If you're constantly going heavier, then that is what will make you stronger, going beyond your capability.
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Scot ish was a beast 4-5 years ago, and he has increased his beastness quite a bit since then I bet
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I've seen pics of him and he's like Ayres Rock with tattoos.
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28th February 2012, 13:31
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Body building gives you a pump but pumps are useless, powerlifting gives a deep ache for the next day or two showing muscle brake down which in turn means growth.. If you want size powerlift then tone with bodybuilding.
1 rep maxes are powerlifting, I never go above 4 on working weights.
Knee straps on deadlifts arent raw, I compete raw.
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28th February 2012, 13:51
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bahaha you all know what I meant, muscle filling with blood... yeyey I got it the wrong way around
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