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4th June 2012, 19:15
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Newbie
Join Date: May 2012
Location: fareham
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Car(s): saxo vts
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removing power steering !
wanting to remove power steering , is this easy to do ? anybody come into any problems removing it?
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4th June 2012, 19:57
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Infrequent Poster
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Derbyshire
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Car(s): Saxo 1.6 VTS Blue
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ye, just unblot it i reckon, i need a new one for my vts
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4th June 2012, 20:00
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Take the pump and pipes off, plug to holes with bolts easy
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5th June 2012, 12:49
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Regular Poster
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Tadcaster
Posts: 331
Car(s): 08 turbo panda
02 vtr
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does the steering rack not need to be changed to a non-PAS one as well? this is the only reason i havent done mine as the pumps shagged.
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6th June 2012, 22:37
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Location: Essex
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Take the pump off, join the hoses, job done. Will take about 10 mins if you drag it out.
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7th June 2012, 07:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffchiz
Take the pump and pipes off, plug to holes with bolts easy
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Drain the fluid outta the rack first...
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7th June 2012, 09:21
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: wellington
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Car(s): saxo vtr/s
passat tdi
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was going to ask this exact same question best get the bolts out lol
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7th June 2012, 11:12
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Saxperience Hardcore!
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Car(s): VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
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Removing pas from a car with pas makes the steering really hard unless you totally remove it and replace the rack etc, if you plug the holes its rock to steer lol
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7th June 2012, 11:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blackie_2k5
Removing pas from a car with pas makes the steering really hard unless you totally remove it and replace the rack etc, if you plug the holes its rock to steer lol
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Really wouldnt reccomend using the same rack if you dont want PAS (it will be so hard to turn, almost impossible if you're not moving) They're not that hard to swap over but ive never fitted a manual, Can only assume it will be a straight swap, the rack might be longer though iirc.
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7th June 2012, 11:51
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Not a straight swap, it the ram which causes the resistances, not the rack, remove the ram and will be like non pas, non pas racks change a lot and longer lock to lock, so pas rack quicker.
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7th June 2012, 11:57
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7th June 2012, 12:21
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Very helpful, quick bit of weight saving to be done then!!
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7th June 2012, 17:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thecorporatemachine
does the steering rack not need to be changed to a non-PAS one as well? this is the only reason i havent done mine as the pumps shagged.
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dont have to change it, you can do if you want except the steering colum needs to be changed to non pas item as well, peope leave the pas racks in as it has a faster lock to lock its known as a 'quick non-pas rack'
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Originally Posted by greyjasper51
Drain the fluid outta the rack first...
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when removing the pipes the fluid generally decideds to drain out of its own accord...
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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5
Removing pas from a car with pas makes the steering really hard unless you totally remove it and replace the rack etc, if you plug the holes its rock to steer lol
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Originally Posted by jasonmayall
+1
Really wouldnt reccomend using the same rack if you dont want PAS (it will be so hard to turn, almost impossible if you're not moving) They're not that hard to swap over but ive never fitted a manual, Can only assume it will be a straight swap, the rack might be longer though iirc.
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if not done properly then yes its very hard, there is a difference to having a broken pas system (which makes steering very hard) over remvoing the pipes/pump
i was driving around for over a year with a pas rack with the pipes still attached but the fluid drained out and no pump, and it was fine no where near as bad as you make out, or im hench either way you decide 
Last edited by jeffchiz; 7th June 2012 at 18:02.
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7th June 2012, 23:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffchiz
i was driving around for over a year with a pas rack with the pipes still attached but the fluid drained out and no pump, and it was fine no where near as bad as you make out, or im hench either way you decide
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Hench...
My PAS pipe burst a few months ago and it was much, much worse than a non PAS car. you must be huge 
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7th June 2012, 23:34
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My diesel had the pump removed but everything else on it still when I bought... Just hanging lol
Was a cunt to park but same as a non pas car it's ok when your driving
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8th June 2012, 01:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonmayall
Hench...
My PAS pipe burst a few months ago and it was much, much worse than a non PAS car. you must be huge |
well ive had my pas stopped working working before and yes it was horribile to steer almost popped my shoulder out its socket everytime i parked, but when i cracked my pas pump and i removed it and drained the fluid it wasnt hardly any harder to steer than a non pas car parking or driving
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8th June 2012, 08:16
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Remove the ram it easy and will take all that stiffness away.
The reason it was hard when the pump stop because you are fight the fluid in the ram there no pump to pump it so you lose power assisted steering. But if you remove pump and the pipes and the ram, all that will be gone and leaves just a normal rack.
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8th June 2012, 08:17
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Read the link I posted it explains a lot.
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8th June 2012, 08:27
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Saxperience Hardcore!
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The theory whether you keep the pas rack aside, why do you feel the need to remove power steering anyway..?
What drives you to make your car shitter..
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8th June 2012, 13:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MiniGibbo
The theory whether you keep the pas rack aside, why do you feel the need to remove power steering anyway..?
What drives you to make your car shitter..
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some people just prefer the feel on non-pas, i think on saxo its jsut about perfect as its not too light but on my mums clio the steering is really over assisted, it just makes the car a bit gayer and easier to drive to please the masses (definition of a car without a mullet )
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