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Old 8th June 2012, 16:13   #21
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Get a lot better feel without the pas.

Mine a track car, it a not needed part.
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Old 1st September 2018, 21:23   #22
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I've removed the pump and pipes does any know the size of the bolts needed to plug the rack? I've binned the originals before measuring them.
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Old 2nd September 2018, 15:47   #23
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Don't plug the rack. Just leave them open.

The ram is separate to the rack, so it won't damage the rack.

I drove mine like that for about 6 years no worries.
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Old 5th October 2018, 19:18   #24
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Gonna be doing this soon myself on track car. Anyone know how much weight you ditch by removing pas? The pump looks weighty!!
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Old 5th October 2018, 23:50   #25
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Gonna be doing this soon myself on track car. Anyone know how much weight you ditch by removing pas? The pump looks weighty!!
There's not too much weight in it, I'd guess the pump plus the pipes to the rack is just under 5Kg

If I get the chance, I'll weigh mine next time I'm across at my unit.
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Old 27th October 2018, 14:22   #26
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8 or so kilos saved.

+ benefits of removing losses from charging system.
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Old 27th October 2018, 15:14   #27
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8kg's is well worth it though in my view!
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Old 28th October 2018, 19:46   #28
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Real simpleton question now...
What is "the ram". Clean answers only
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Old 3rd November 2018, 10:23   #29
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the part that looks like a damper on the rack in the engine bay by the bulkhead.
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Old 3rd November 2018, 17:38   #30
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the part that looks like a damper on the rack in the engine bay by the bulkhead.
And this can just be removed without any problems? Does it have a gaiter on it? I think I saw this the other day as the gaiter was split.
Simple removal??
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Does anyone have a link to a Guide to removing all PAS ? I've found a few but they arent very detailed...

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And this can just be removed without any problems? Does it have a gaiter on it? I think I saw this the other day as the gaiter was split.
Simple removal??
The bit with the gaitor on it is the rack itself

the ram is below that and it's about half the length. It should just unbolt - maybe easier said than done with the engine in place.
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The bit with the gaitor on it is the rack itself

the ram is below that and it's about half the length. It should just unbolt - maybe easier said than done with the engine in place.
I'm hoping it unbolts from the left hand side, otherwise space looks very limited!
Will probably have a shot at doing it tomorrow night. Everything else in the pas removal looks pretty straight forward...
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Old 7th November 2018, 17:06   #34
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Can someone please show a pic of "the ram", don't wanna remove the wrong part and nause up the steering...
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Here it is, held in by 2 bolts.

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Here it is, held in by 2 bolts.

Mate your a legend, thanks so much for posting that pic. Let's see if I can do it tomorrow with the engine in situ!!??
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Tried and failed, just cannot get to the bolts with the engine in place. Tried turning the wheels in both directions which enabled slightly more clearance, but just not enough to get the hex bit in...
Any suggestions welcome.
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Tried and failed, just cannot get to the bolts with the engine in place. Tried turning the wheels in both directions which enabled slightly more clearance, but just not enough to get the hex bit in...
Any suggestions welcome.
Did you try it with the inlet manifold removed?
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Did you try it with the inlet manifold removed?
Ah... will approach it differently tomorrow night then, with inlet manifold off.
Decided to do gear linkages instead for now.
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completely removed a rack with the engine and inlet (16v) on once. if it wasn't for a mate helping it would not of happened lol
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