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4th August 2013, 00:27
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Turbo or supercharger
What's everyone's choice one or the other been told superchargers are cheaper and give a higher power gain.
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4th August 2013, 01:22
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if your looking for high gains then neither are cheap.
both have there advantages and disadvantages.
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4th August 2013, 02:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by adzvtr
if your looking for high gains then neither are cheap.
both have there advantages and disadvantages.
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+1 defo not cheap if you want it done proper
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4th August 2013, 02:28
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I'd say its not cheap if you build from new, my last turbo build was good power and all completely built for under 2k. Granted if I'd sourced everything new it'd of cost over 4.5-5k but it shows what can be done with a scope about.
I prefer turbos mainly for the unruliness of them especially in the little cars but I do like the idea of superchargers and being able to get the power you want as and when.
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4th August 2013, 10:15
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Sorry I should have said cheaper, I just find it all very interesting and looking to learn on the subject.
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4th August 2013, 10:35
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Was talking to a local tuning company that have done cars that has featured in French car mags etc and they do kits for a saxo, and they said the supercharger kit was cheaper and more power output. They don't only add a turbo on it tho they strengthen the engine and change the pistons etc
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4th August 2013, 11:05
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Turbo for me, I'm addicted to turbos like soo many out there.
I'd say a rotrex kit would be much quicker to turn around and would be kinder on the gearbox.
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4th August 2013, 12:33
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What is the 'local tuning company' called that you went to.
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4th August 2013, 13:12
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I prefer turbo, parts can be sourced relatively cheap second hand, and can be done by yourself to save money.
both give excellent gains.
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4th August 2013, 18:18
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What is the 'local tuning company' called that you went to.
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Probably Peugeot Ecosse going by his location
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4th August 2013, 18:29
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Under the gmc motorsport affiliate section there is a dedicated turbovs supercharger boost discussion thread. Very well worth a read even for the debate lol...
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4th August 2013, 19:12
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Yeah it is Peugeot ecosse
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5th August 2013, 09:03
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the first question should be HOW MUCH power do you want .
for ultimate bhp a turbo can give more BHP as the boost level is only limted by the choice of turbo unit .
a rotrex s/c can never give more than 1.1-1.3 bar of boost .
the costs --for high boost you need same internal engine mods on both ,ecu requirements etc are similar,though s/c is simpler to map
if comparing new prices s/c will be cheaper + much simpler to fit ,and easier to take off again should you need to .
no need to interfer with oil system or sump and no water cooling system to make .
maybe the number of s/h DIY turbo systems that always seem to be for sale is an indication of how wel some of these systems turn out ?
for normal road use i would not suggest much more than 200/220 bhp@wheels
you will need forged pistons for this power for either for a relaible fit + forget car
fitting s/c is very simple and anybody competent enough to do an engine comversion would have no problems fitting a s/c conversion quite quickly with no need for acess to welding equipment etc
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5th August 2013, 16:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sexy_gt
Under the gmc motorsport affiliate section there is a dedicated turbovs supercharger boost discussion thread. Very well worth a read even for the debate lol...
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I shall have a read of it
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