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28th February 2013, 23:45
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#201
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 8,390
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I just flag down random passing vans anytime i want something couriered tbh.
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1st March 2013, 00:49
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#202
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Banned
Join Date: May 2011
Location: north london
Posts: 1,618
Car(s): mk1 flat arch
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Sorry for the delay, had a very busy day will pm you the address now!!
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1st March 2013, 08:52
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#203
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Saxperience Addict
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Middlesbrough
Posts: 10,620
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Sorry for the delay, had a very busy day will pm you the address now!!
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Are you actually going to explain what's gone on and at least try and salvage your reputation/character here or not?
If you genuinely are in the wrong, then owning up to it truthfully, explaining what's gone on and apologising would go a long way to getting back on track.
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1st March 2013, 09:00
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#204
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Doncaster
Posts: 2,627
Car(s): Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others
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Originally Posted by jayline
Sorry for the delay, had a very busy day will pm you the address now!!
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Ive found all of your posts very anti climatic.
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1st March 2013, 09:53
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#205
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Saxperience Addict
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 10,340
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Guys I dont see why this should be dragged out. Jay has already said he will refund and has issues going on so I dont see why more needs to be said because its clear. Its hard for me and possibly others a friend who has been helping him with his car as an example Jay is a genuine lad and has been a bit silly to try this. He gave me vtr brakes for free and is a decent lad.
The point im trying to make is things must have been bad for him to try this so why does it need to be dragged out more. Can we just lock this because its turning into a typical sax p bitchfest where 50 people segregate one person.
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1st March 2013, 10:40
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#206
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,009
Car(s): Saxò VTS 16v
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Originally Posted by Aly
Guys I dont see why this should be dragged out. Jay has already said he will refund and has issues going on so I dont see why more needs to be said because its clear. Its hard for me and possibly others a friend who has been helping him with his car as an example Jay is a genuine lad and has been a bit silly to try this. He gave me vtr brakes for free and is a decent lad.
The point im trying to make is things must have been bad for him to try this so why does it need to be dragged out more. Can we just lock this because its turning into a typical sax p bitchfest where 50 people segregate one person.
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I agree but i believe that the guy on the other part (Martin M) deserves atleast an explanation of what has happened and not just a refund wich is his right to have.
About the thread yes,i think that too,this is between them and the Sax-p mods,i think the thread needs to be locked now waiting for them to reach an agreement.
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1st March 2013, 10:53
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#207
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Pompey/Darlo
Posts: 31,546
Car(s): MK1 - 1.1 Animal
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Aly you are deluded. A thief isn't a genuine lad. He can't even admit what's happened, that's not genuine, blaming personal issues, that's not genuine either. Needs to pay up and fuck off. Hopefully perm banned as soon as its sorted
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1st March 2013, 11:03
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#208
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Infrequent Poster
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 141
Car(s): Citroen Saxo Turbo
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Originally Posted by Yates
Aly you are deluded. A thief isn't a genuine lad. He can't even admit what's happened, that's not genuine, blaming personal issues, that's not genuine either. Needs to pay up and fuck off. Hopefully perm banned as soon as its sorted
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Totally agree with this, im sure you wouldn't share the same opinion if it had happened to you mate Aly, no one deserves to be scammed like it if that's the case.
Happened to me by someone for only 20quid and I didn't stop till I got it back, it may only be 20quid but end of the day I don't work hard to get fleeced by anyone for any amount.
106 owners & RR should use this section like saxp as it highlights any problems and can help!
Anyway good luck and hope it gets resolved
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1st March 2013, 11:11
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#209
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 31,278
Car(s): Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
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Originally Posted by Aly
The point im trying to make is things must have been bad for him to try this so why does it need to be dragged out more. Can we just lock this because its turning into a typical sax p bitchfest where 50 people segregate one person.
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No excuse though Aly... lol.
got wonga and all that if he needs money.
Would you do the same if you were stuck for money?? no, nor would i.
Its beyond.
I've never had a problem with Jay really before the FB removal starts.. just its SO wrong to do what he did and he needs to put his hands up.
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1st March 2013, 11:53
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#210
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Saxperience Addict
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 10,340
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Originally Posted by Yates
Aly you are deluded. A thief isn't a genuine lad. He can't even admit what's happened, that's not genuine, blaming personal issues, that's not genuine either. Needs to pay up and fuck off. Hopefully perm banned as soon as its sorted
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I was pointing more towards the many hipocrits on here that jump on someones back in times of need. Hes done something bad and will pay for it he doesnt need the other shit that comes with it. Its a form of bullying.
Last edited by Aly; 1st March 2013 at 11:56.
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1st March 2013, 12:03
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#211
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Jail - Whitby
Posts: 15,034
Car(s): 520bhp Honda Jazz
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aly
I was pointing more towards the many hipocrits on here that jump on someones back in times of need. Hes done something bad and will pay for it he doesnt need the other shit that comes with it. Its a form of bullying.
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Not really bullying, we just think Martyn deserves to know why he was scammed, and for Jay to admit it.. If you were skint, would you resort to stealing?
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1st March 2013, 12:07
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#212
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 38,236
Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
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For the record this isn't going to be locked whilst money is outstanding.....
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1st March 2013, 12:09
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#213
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Pompey/Darlo
Posts: 31,546
Car(s): MK1 - 1.1 Animal
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Its not bullying, bullying is when they cry in front of you. Il never meet the thief so won't see if he cries.
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1st March 2013, 12:10
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#214
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,100
Car(s): Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
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.People can be naive and trust in peoples good nature but it doesnt always follow that someone who seems "alright" isn't out to make a quick buck. Getting scammed by "Tisandy" when I first signed up a while back made me wise up to that fact, all the stuff he was telling me was total bullshit but I still gave him the benefit of the doubt up to a certain point in time. I got my money back in the end but he probably made some money out of people who didnt open a dispute with paypal in time.
Seems to me like some people almost use it as a way to get an interest free loan and pay it back in instalments when they can
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1st March 2013, 12:24
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#215
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Cambridge(ish), UK.
Posts: 10,581
Car(s): BMW 5x M50d.
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To add to Ryans comments above, I've tried to help (both Martijn AND Jay) wherever possible. However...
There's a difference between someone doing something stupid/silly/publicly outrageous that we overlook in a community. I'm far from perfect - and there's people here with criminal convictions for all sorts. The community that is Saxp as a rule don't judge or hold things against people (rib-jabbing and piss taking aside obviously).
When it impacts US, as a community, as a website or club, that's when it's a problem. If Jay had stolen from someone outside of the club or "scene" I really wouldn't give a shit tbh. But he's stolen from a member of the site, and a member from other sites we're closely linked to (like it or not ). It impacts us. It tarnishes us. And it isn't tolerated.
If the thread is closed and Jay is allowed to stay actively buying & selling on the forum then how will the next person who's about to get scammed, who might have only signed up a few days before, ever know he's a bad trader? They wouldn't.
As others have pointed out - Jay's actions from this point forward will really dictate how he's treated going forward by the members of the community. He might be a nice lad in person (never met him) but he's done himself a lot of damage to his reputation doing this, and compounded it by how he's subsequently handled it.
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1st March 2013, 12:54
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#216
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Rack City, Isle of Man
Posts: 4,127
Car(s): GS300, MK1 VTS, Katy M 1190
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..And thats the way the cookie crumbles.
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1st March 2013, 13:04
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#217
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,100
Car(s): Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
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haha thanked by him for that post too
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1st March 2013, 13:17
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#218
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 5,642
Car(s): 1985 E28 BMW 525E 2.7
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The guy has scammed another member out of THREE HUNDRED QUID!
Refund or not, he should be banned completely, end of story!
If a "Legal team" is dealing with it, he'll have to pay it regardless of whether he can still access Sax-P.
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1st March 2013, 13:22
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#219
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sawtry
Posts: 3,456
Car(s): Saxo VTS
Saxo VTR
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I don't know whether its relevant or not, but jay offered the cage to me about 2/3 weeks ago, only reason i didn't buy it, cause i didn't have enough money for it.
Sort off glad i didn't buy it now :/
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1st March 2013, 13:28
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#220
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 8,390
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aly
Guys I dont see why this should be dragged out. Jay has already said he will refund and has issues going on so I dont see why more needs to be said because its clear. Its hard for me and possibly others a friend who has been helping him with his car as an example Jay is a genuine lad and has been a bit silly to try this. He gave me vtr brakes for free and is a decent lad.
The point im trying to make is things must have been bad for him to try this so why does it need to be dragged out more. Can we just lock this because its turning into a typical sax p bitchfest where 50 people segregate one person.
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Youre entitled to your opinion, as is everyone, but youre obv quite pally with him going by what you said. I find it quite weird youve allowed that to cloud your judgement though: i can say with conviction that if one of my mates acted like he did, id kick him in the balls and get the guys money back for him.
Personal issues? Well that makes it ok to steal 300 quid from someone. Fuck sake.
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