PAS, heater fan , rear demister Repair. - Page 10 - Saxperience

Vollty · 1st April 2009, 21:28

Hi all!

Just brought a saxo scandal (lovely color scheme!!) for my daughters first car.......needless to say the demister & fan does not work!
Have done a test, joining the two brown wires & all is fine.
My question is why do others recommend using a relay in line? I can't even work out why these wires run through the ignition switch. As far as I can see, power does not run through these wires when the engine is not running, so why do they run through the ignition switch? In other words I can see no difference between the original wiring set up or just joining the two brown wires together!
Any thoughts?

James5247 · 5th April 2009, 18:07

I am having this problem with my Pas, H.R.W and blowers.

My problem is that i have a cat1 alarm fitted and if i bridge the connector will this affect my alarm system?

hainesz · 5th April 2009, 19:02

so what if its just the p/s that has stopped working?

topher32 · 8th April 2009, 17:01

Legend, this mod was perfect. so easy to do and saved me a fair bit of cash. Cheers for this.

Liio · 26th April 2009, 15:38

I just want to make this 100% clear.
I have disconnected the red wires from the brown wires.
It says above the picture about cutting wires, but in the picture there is no cut wires wtf lol.
Do i just leave disconnected and bridge the brown wires.

Liio · 7th May 2009, 22:08

I bridged the connection through a block connector and all 3 still dont work.
And all the fuses are all ok.
What on earth could it be.
Arghhhh

SOUNDZMAN · 8th May 2009, 23:41

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Originally Posted by Topbombingkid

its by passing a switch in the ignition its a common falt on the saxo even citroen do this mod (so ive been told) its this or pay for a new ignition.

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Originally Posted by Topbombingkid

Ok if all three of the above have stopped working this is what you do.

Remove the steering column cover (held on by 2 torx) and under the steering column is a light brown plastic connector with 2 red wires going in the right side and 2 brown wires coming out the left side.

Cut the 2 brown wires and join them together. Make sure you solder the wires or use a proper crimp connector and make sure u use insulation tape to cover it. and tape up the 2 lose ends of the brown wires.

done this trick about 5 month ago and the other day i notice smoke comin from the steering wheel so i took the cover off. the brown wire was red hot and the insulation tape had turn to plastic and was ready to set on fire anybody got any idears about this is this safe

chinkostu · 9th May 2009, 00:11

Best not to use leccy tape then

shouldn't be smoking though, there isn't that much current going through them as far as i know :s

just cut the wire again and crimp them again!

martinius1 · 21st May 2009, 09:05

I've had this problem aswell, i fixed it by connecting a fused (10A)wire between the 12+v on the head unit to the top plug on the heater fan switch (the one where two wires go in) had no problems and works magic. Although i dont know how well this works on versions with PAS as i dont have anything that modern!! lol
Hope this helps some of you.

chinkostu · 21st May 2009, 12:23

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Originally Posted by martinius1

I've had this problem aswell, i fixed it by connecting a fused (10A)wire between the 12+v on the head unit to the top plug on the heater fan switch (the one where two wires go in) had no problems and works magic. Although i dont know how well this works on versions with PAS as i dont have anything that modern!! lol
Hope this helps some of you.

still leaves your demister buggered though

baker556 · 12th June 2009, 12:32

dam mines gone my fuse keeps blowing when i turn the ignition on the fuse then blows will this fix it? or could it be an earthing problem ive checked my wires over and over not sure what it could be if it don't fix it i wont be going to fcs....

Liio · 12th June 2009, 13:37

Well still aint solved mine. Power steering is shagged, rear de-mister dont work and now i found out my heaters will work when they want too.

Stress like.

baker556 · 12th June 2009, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liio

Well still aint solved mine. Power steering is shagged, rear de-mister dont work and now i found out my heaters will work when they want too.

Stress like.

dude look at your relay under the dash yellow one, mines burnt to a crisp and the plug replaced the relay but still does'nt work might have to replace the plug also !

Liio · 12th June 2009, 17:20

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Originally Posted by baker556

dude look at your relay under the dash yellow one, mines burnt to a crisp and the plug replaced the relay but still does'nt work might have to replace the plug also !

Swapped all relays over with my mate, still nothing

Tubs · 14th June 2009, 16:17

Just sorted this on my lads car thanks for the info

gillyskillz · 31st July 2009, 20:43

I'm driving a p reg VTS, and I'm currently experience a few problems.
1- PAS has completely packed in. It was on it's way out for weeks, whenever the car was first started, the PAS wouldn't work until it had been driven for a few minutes, but would fail again whenever the car stopped. Now it's completely non-existent.
2-Central locking has also packed in. The central locking worked on and off just like the steering, one day it would work, then fail the next. It has finally packed in completely. The car doesn't have a fob, the key has to be used, but for some reason the drivers side lock is very tempramental, and rarely unlocks within the first 10 attempts, but then for no reason will just pop up. I believe this to be a seperate problem to the central locking. It's a real nightmare.
I've experienced no other problems with the vehicle than the ones mentioned. Any help or advice would be hugely appreciated.

WestCoastJosh · 10th August 2009, 15:42

This happens to me but while im driving

i figured that if i whack the cover under the steering column it works again. i have checked under the cover and those wires seem fine.

WheresMeNuts · 12th August 2009, 20:24

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Originally Posted by iw_laurence

heres some pictures. i did this today and it worked fine

Forgive my stupidity, But where would you buy a cable like that as B & Q had nothing like it & does a cable like that have a name so I can ebay it.....

SaxoStevo · 12th August 2009, 21:03

Done this when i first bought my car months ago. worked perfect. i prefered to get a bit of wire like the pic. instead of cutting stuff tho. cheers man

WheresMeNuts · 13th August 2009, 18:40

OK went to a local car dealer & got the cable with the spades. I hooked them up as showing in the picture & ya Fookin Dancer it worked all 3 speeds & also my back window heater Muwhahaha Thx to the OP for this tip & if your ever in Glasgow message me so I can buy you 10 Pints.